It was the wrong thread

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Penske 2.0

This is an olde article and actually happened on Bush's watch, right? Certainly the Obama administration would not engage in such brainless and oppressive endeavours.

i'm still waiting for the Justice Dept to prosecute an infringing use of the seal of the President (elect) that happened in 2008/2009 between election day and inaugural day.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

when i was a quasi-judicial official of the US Dept of commerce I became a union rep to gain actual litigation experience. our union and the PTO management submitted conflicting contract provisions to binding arbitration. the arb decided. PTO appealled. we took the position no appeal was available.

the K required the final k be printed for the rank and file. we said let's print it. PTO said, "well okay, but with the parts we are challenging in italics." we go "no, because your managers will always treat those like they aren't really in the K."

so we up and printed it, and then sued them for the cost- then they conter sued us because we had put their seal on the cover.

then i quit having anything to do with labor law

You're like a high-tech Norma Rae.

[Penske 2.0]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

i'm still waiting for the Justice Dept to prosecute an infringing use of the seal of the President (elect) that happened in 2008/2009 between election day and inaugural day.

Also, what happened to the "W" key board keys that the Clinton people heisted?!?!?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

i'm still waiting for the Justice Dept to prosecute an infringing use of the seal of the President (elect) that happened in 2008/2009 between election day and inaugural day.

No copyright in government works.

There is statutory authority for the presidential transition, and federal money to pay for it.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

No copyright in government works.

There is statutory authority for the presidential transition, and federal money to pay for it.

Does Disney know about this exception?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Penske 2.0

This is an olde article and actually happened on Bush's watch, right? Certainly the Obama administration would not engage in such brainless and oppressive endeavours.

I believe the FBI is brainless and oppressive no matter who the President is.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

No copyright in government works.

Cite, please? (Seriously. I reached the opposite conclusion for non-federal works, as have many of m'colleagues.)

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Cite, please? (Seriously. I reached the opposite conclusion for non-federal works, as have many of m'colleagues.)

17 USC 105

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Cite, please? (Seriously. I reached the opposite conclusion for non-federal works, as have many of m'colleagues.)

I was surprised Hank didn't realize this. Apparently he treated his IP law education the same way he treated his con law education.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

17 USC 105

Then I think your prior post was overbroad. "No copyright in federal government works." I thought you were implying there was some kind of common law of public intellectual property, and I had concluded there wasn't. Oakland can stop me from marketing "Oakland PD" hats the same way it can charge admission to the Colisseum when the Warriors are playing even though both are public property. And I can't steal Oakland's website and put it up elsewhere, etc. Yes?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I was surprised Hank didn't realize this. Apparently he treated his IP law education the same way he treated his con law education.

i didn't draft the complaint, nor read it. however, i assume the US patent and trademark is unlikely to have made a major gaffe about copyright law. I think it wasn't a compalint in copyright law, but something to do with authoirty.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

i didn't draft the complaint, nor read it. however, i assume the US patent and trademark is unlikely to have made a major gaffe about copyright law. I think it wasn't a compalint in copyright law, but something to do with authoirty.

But you were proposing that the gov't prosecute an infringing use of the Presidential seal, no?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Then I think your prior post was overbroad. "No copyright in federal government works." I thought you were implying there was some kind of common law of public intellectual property, and I had concluded their wasn't. Oakland can stop me from marketing "Oakland PD" hats the same way it can charge admission to the Colisseum when the Warriors are playing even though both are public property. And I can't steal Oakland's website and put it up elsewhere, etc. Yes?

the hats are more grounded in TM- although Obama tshirts are freely sold in every non-rich neighborbood party store in the Metro D

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

But you were proposing that the gov't prosecute an infringing use of the Presidential seal, no?

infringing is a broad word. it would extend to the crime that his transition team di commit- or at least that one crime.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

infringing is a broad word. it would extend to the crime that his transition team di commit- or at least that one crime.

Cite, please.