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Gattigap · 08-22-2005, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Actually, I think it's ludicrous that any of the 50 states would allow anyone to vote without sufficient indentification.

Not really the question I asked, but this is certainly a thematic declaration with which, divorced from extraneous factors, it's hard to disagree.

I'm tempted to ask what you consider "sufficient," but that seems to feed back to the question of how to get eligible voters up to that bar without disproportionate racial impact. And, as you don't seem to demonstrate much enthusiasm for this particular topic, I'll let it go.

Penske_Account · 08-22-2005, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Actually, I think it's ludicrous that any of the 50 states would allow anyone to vote without sufficient indentification.

From a practical standpoint the Democrat controlled counties oppose it as it would impact on their ability to carry out their voting fraud conspiracies (see State of Washington 2004).

Penske_Account · 08-22-2005, 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
Not really the question I asked, but this is certainly a thematic declaration with which, divorced from extraneous factors, it's hard to disagree.

I'm tempted to ask what you consider "sufficient," but that seems to feed back to the question of how to get eligible voters up to that bar without disproportionate racial impact. And, as you don't seem to demonstrate much enthusiasm for this particular topic, I'll let it go.

Its called personal responsibility. Someone actually has to go somewhere and get something. I would think that the impact on poor people of any race would be equal. Is this really a racial affect or class affect? Is poverty a protected class?

SlaveNoMore · 08-22-2005, 05:09 PM

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y Gattigap
I'm tempted to ask what you consider "sufficient," but that seems to feed back to the question of how to get eligible voters up to that bar without disproportionate racial impact. And, as you don't seem to demonstrate much enthusiasm for this particular topic, I'll let it go.

I've mentioned previously that - after struggling mightily with this issue for some time - I've come down in favor of the National ID card.

Gattigap · 08-22-2005, 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Its called personal responsibility. Someone actually has to go somewhere and get something. I would think that the impact on poor people of any race would be equal. Is this really a racial affect or class affect? Is poverty a protected class?

The two articles I've linked to suggest that the disparity is predominantly racial. If you want a national breakdown of the phenomenon, I'm sure you can Google for it, but in the meantime, if you derive an extra degree of comfort in simple declarations of "personal responsibility!" and telling the state's blacks to go get on a bus to Marietta like everyone else does, I can understand that.

Gattigap · 08-22-2005, 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I've mentioned previously that - after struggling mightily with this issue for some time - I've come down in favor of the National ID card.

I did not recall this. OK.

Penske_Account · 08-22-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
The two articles I've linked to suggest that the disparity is predominantly racial. If you want a national breakdown of the phenomenon, I'm sure you can Google for it, but in the meantime, if you derive an extra degree of comfort in simple declarations of "personal responsibility!" and telling the state's blacks to go get on a bus to Marietta like everyone else does, I can understand that.

Is the affect racially neutral but tending to impact more blacks than whites because blacks comprise a higher percentage of the lower class?

Penske_Account · 08-22-2005, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I've mentioned previously that - after struggling mightily with this issue for some time - I've come down in favor of the National ID card.

2. Surrendering some part of my freedoms is my contribution to the War on Terror. Too bad Cindy Sheehan couldn't be so giving.

Replaced_Texan · 08-22-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
What is this? I can't find it in my wallet.

Really? Huh?

Penske_Account · 08-22-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Really? Huh?

How do we apply this to confirming a voter's identity?

Replaced_Texan · 08-22-2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
How do we apply this to confirming a voter's identity?

Same way we'd apply it to confirming a healthcare consumer's identity. And driving too. (I put that in for you, Spanky).

Penske_Account · 08-22-2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Same way we'd apply it to confirming a healthcare consumer's identity. And driving too. (I put that in for you, Spanky).

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I must be dense [today?], explain to me how it would work practically speaking.

Penske_Account · 08-22-2005, 05:41 PM

From townhall.com:

The First Amendment and [Michael Graham] have been evicted from ABC Radio in Washington, DC.

On July 25th, the Council on American-Islamic Relations demanded that I be “punished” for my on-air statements regarding Islam and its tragic connections to terrorism. Three days later, 630 WMAL and ABC Radio suspended me without pay for comments deemed “hate radio” by CAIR.

CAIR immediately announced that my punishment was insufficient and demanded I be fired. ABC Radio and 630 WMAL have now complied. I have been fired for making the specific comments CAIR deemed “offensive,” and for refusing to retract those statements in a management-mandated, on-air apology. ABC Radio further demanded that I agree to perform what they described as “additional outreach efforts” to those people or groups who felt offended.

I refused. And for that refusal, I have been fired.

It appears that ABC Radio has caved to an organization that condemns talk radio hosts like me, but has never condemned Hamas, Hezbollah, and one that wouldn’t specifically condemn Al Qaeda for three months after 9/11.
It appears that ABC Radio has caved to an organization that condemns talk radio hosts like me, but has never condemned Hamas, Hezbollah, and one that wouldn’t specifically condemn Al Qaeda for three months after 9/11.

When are these guys going to apologize? Can we fire on them?

How about this lady? Apology, please?!?!!?

Replaced_Texan · 08-22-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
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I must be dense [today?], explain to me how it would work practically speaking.

Once Congress lets DHHS explain it to me, I'll explain it to you. But it seems if we already have a legislated national identity in HIPAA, we should piggy back that with a larger overall identity (if we decide to go that route).

Gattigap · 08-22-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account

[Michael Graham]

Who?

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It appears that ABC Radio has caved to an organization that condemns talk radio hosts like me, but has never condemned Hamas, Hezbollah, and one that wouldn’t specifically condemn Al Qaeda for three months after 9/11.
It appears that ABC Radio has caved to an organization that condemns talk radio hosts like me, but has never condemned Hamas, Hezbollah, and one that wouldn’t specifically condemn Al Qaeda for three months after 9/11.

You forgot the third time, Penske. Remember, say it three times, last time with exclamation points !!!!!, and the liberal orthodoxy will collapse at your feet.