Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Are you suggesting that US forces in Iraq are facing a horde of individually motivated, self taught suicide bombers whose placing and timing are only seemingly coordinated?

NO - I just stated a fact. Sidd thought that most of the deaths were not caused by suicide bombers. I corrected that. It is not that complicated.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Thanks for clarifying your point. As far as I know the terrorists who bombed the train Madrid were not trained in Iraq. But who knows? I doubt that they were coordinated from Iraq -- I think they were coordinated from whereever many of the attacks in Iraq are coordinated from. Like a cave in Pakistan.

But really -- suggesting that this makes the "breeding ground" claim hollow? It took quite a few years before people trained in Afghanistan began attacking the US or Russia elsewhere.

And it's not like they don't have an abundance of American targets in Iraq. I don't understand why supporters of the war think American deaths don't "count" if they aren't being killed on US soil. When we invaded Iraq, did anyone anticipate 1500 American soldiers being killed by terrorists?

The argument has been that the war in Iraq was going to lead to more terrorist attacks against American citizens around the world. This has not happened. As far American deaths in Iraq, the prediction was the original invasion was going to cost thousands of deaths. The original invasion went much better than anticipated and the occupation has been more difficult than anticipated. But for being in a war for over two years, the casuality count is very low.

Originally posted by Spanky
Wahhabism is a sect of Islam, just like Congretionalists are a sect of Christianity. So denigrating them is religious bigotry.

So "snake-handling wingnuts" is out, then?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
You are constantly saying that they did it.

No, I am just saying I am not convinced it is impossible. By comparison, as far as I can tell, Gore has never killed anyone or been the least bit complicit in a murder; although for alll I know he may have bored someone to death watching him on TV and they attributed it to natural causes.

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
And you believe that the innuendo is true. That's all I'm saying. You believe it's true, whatever your reasons. It's not a shtick, as Hank says in trying to defend you. It's what you truly believe.

No, I just don't believe that all of it is false out of hand. But you can believe what obsessively paranoidal defamatory delusions about me as you will.

Originally posted by Sidd Finch

Compare that to John Gotti -- enough evidence to support charges and convictions.

Not on the case cited.

Originally posted by Sidd Finch


The nature of the people making the charges would be reason enough. You, for example, have already compared Bill Clinton to Stalin and Mussolini -- and that's just today.

Actually, I think Hillary is the driving force behind the criminal enterprise; but Hitlerian than Stalinistic or Mussoliniish.

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Given that, I wouldn't believe you if you told me the sun rises in the East. One believes the pathologic at one's own risk.

More slander. The Clintonistic politics of personal destruction has begun.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
No but it is religious bigotry

2.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
No. Wahhabi is a particular brand of a particular religion.

It's like calling someone "fundamentalist," only much more so.

And I don't only use it for people who I think are crazy. I use it for people who I think are fundamentalist, with a "those who are against me are evil and must die!!!" edge.

So in others it is okay to denigrate the fundamentalists? Good, this is why the dems will keep losing the WhiteHouse.

Originally posted by Penske_Account

I know the oft-quoted rule about mentioning Hitler, but how many internet arguments does one lose by actually posting a picture?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ironweed
So "snake-handling wingnuts" is out, then?

Ahem.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ironweed
So "snake-handling wingnuts" is out, then?

Geez. someone get Ironhead a playbook.

SHW is okay, and listen now, because you'd only be making fun of White Christians- that's always okay. I thought Sidd might have been insulting some Islamic sect, which would not have been okay.

The rules are pretty simple, but you do have to rememebr the basic one above.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
I believe the vast majority of recent deaths have been caused by suicide bombers.

Correction, homicide bombers.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Geez. someone get Ironhead a playbook.

SHW is okay, and listen now, because you'd only be making fun of White Christians- that's always okay. I thought Sidd might have been insulting some Islamic sect, which would not have been okay.

The rules are pretty simple, but you do have to rememebr the basic one above.

I think this is your cue for another "Islam -- Religion of Peace" post.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Correction, homicide bombers.

That term makes you sound like a goddamned rube. You're entitled to an opinion, and your shit is well thought out, but that kind of jackass sloganeering is below even this board.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
I believe the vast majority of recent deaths have been caused by suicide bombers.

On US troops? That was my question.

Anyway, this is all beside the point. Iraq as a training ground for terrorists is not particularly important. It doesn't take a lot of training to plant bombs.

Iraq as a recruiting drive for terrorists is much more worrisome. And since more and more foreign fighters are leading the battle, that worry seems to be borne out.

Cue the "flypaper" theory -- but if Iraq is flypaper, then Afghanistan was one of those blue-laser bug-zappers we had in camp, and it seems that there were plenty more bugs leftover at the end.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Correction, homicide bombers.

This attempt at Political Correctness I don't get. Isn't the term bomber usually imply that they are also killing people. So homicide bomber is really redundant. A suicide bomber is an important distinction, because a person willing to kill themsevles in the act is much more difficult to stop. Some who uses an RPG is a homicide bomber. But when there is a high death toll in a highly secure area, a suicide bomber makes much more sense.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
NO - I just stated a fact. Sidd thought that most of the deaths were not caused by suicide bombers. I corrected that. It is not that complicated.

No, Sidd questioned whether most US soldiers since the war ended (ahem) were killed by suicide bombers.