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04-16-2003, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
We have a winner!

I actually like the Who, too, though I prefer the short, punchy, almost proto-punk stuff from the 60s. I'd probably like Who's Next better if it wasn't such a staple of classic rock radio and the camaro set. Not to sound all sebbish, I mean, snobish.

Ollie (can't explain) Ramone

Well fuck, my first thought was either let it bleed or ezile and i did a discography on the stones and iddnt get 72 as the year, leaving me with Eat a Peach. Which could win the title.

sebastian_dangerfield · 04-16-2003, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
That may be true, but I've already given my frame of reference as to why the 70's largely did suck.

I saw a documentary on AC/DC recently and now, aside from that being a phrase appropriate to legal types, I can't get that fucking song out of my brain. They rawk -- a big-dumb-testosterone-fueled rawk, but rawk they do, especially w/Bon.

spookyfish

AC/DC is a severely underrated rock group. They were unfairly typed as dumb metal, but their early records are more like the Stones on steroids and speed - a sort of a blues boogy version of the early Stones with long guitar solos and a crazy screaming vocalist. From High Voltage through to For Those About to Rock, AC/DC put out the best hard rock records in history. Back in Black just never gets old, and Let There Be Rock sounds like what happens when you mix punk, blues and whole lotta meth and whiskey - that disc really jumps out of the speakers.

OH, AND BUY THE NEW WHITE STRIPES DISC. Its ain't the best record in a decade as the ass-kissing reviewers make it sound, but its fucking really good.

spookyfish · 04-16-2003, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
AC/DC is a severely underrated rock group.

Severely underrated rock groups don't make the R&R Hall of Fame, though some severely overrated ones (like Fleetwood Mac, for example) do. And why isn't Sabbath in the HOF?

spookyfish

evenodds · 04-16-2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
AC/DC is a severely underrated rock group.

You know who is severely underrated from the 70s - - Little Feat.

That was a great band and I still love the old pre-77 albums and anything Lowell George ever did.

E/O

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone · 04-16-2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Well fuck, my first thought was either let it bleed or ezile and i did a discography on the stones and iddnt get 72 as the year, leaving me with Eat a Peach. Which could win the title.

You made me double check but yeah, Exile came out in '72. I cannot imagine a more perfect album. I'm actually a somewhat reluctant Stones fan, due largely (okay, entirely) to their output over the last 20 years. But fuck, can't deny greatness.

bilmore · 04-16-2003, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
. . . , leaving me with Eat a Peach. Which could win the title.

Naw - too limited of an audience. That was for hard-core ABB'ers. (I actually wore out my first copy of that one.)

("Huh? How do you wear out a CD?" they asked, puzzled, . . .)

sebastian_dangerfield · 04-16-2003, 02:26 PM

EO,

AGREED.

Lowell George is the fucking greatest. Sailin Shoes through Waiting for Columbus are killer discs.

Waiting might be the best live record I own.

I've found that asking someone whether they dig LF is a nice intro to find out whether there's an upstairs party taking place. Don't know why... just seems that the really fucked up folks seem to dig LF and Steely Dan. I hate Steely Dan. Awful lounge music.

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Originally posted by evenodds
You know who is severely underrated from the 70s - - Little Feat.

That was a great band and I still love the old pre-77 albums and anything Lowell George ever did.

E/O

SlaveNoMore · 04-16-2003, 02:28 PM

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Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
... the greatest rock and roll album of all time came out in '72. Sebby, name that record.

I'm guessing you don't mean "Tales of the Topographic Oceans" from Yes, so I'm guessing you mean:

Pink Floyd "Obscured by Clouds"?
Hot Tuna "Burgers"?
Neil Young "Harvest"?
Genesis "Foxtrot"?
GD "Europe 72"?
Stills "Manassas"?
CCR "Mardi Gras"?
ZZ Top "Rio Grande Mud"? [note - I had to google this one]
Tull "Living in the Past"?
Steely Dan "Can't Buy a Thrill"?
the aforementioned Deep Purple "Machine Head"
Elton John "Honkey Chateau"

although I'm personally going with Sabbath's "Volume 4" or Bowie's "Ziggy Stardust"

not7y(Close to the Edge was 72, Oceans was actually '73, if you care)S

andViolins · 04-16-2003, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
Severely underrated rock groups don't make the R&R Hall of Fame, though some severely overrated ones (like Fleetwood Mac, for example) do. And why isn't Sabbath in the HOF?

spookyfish

O.K. Fleetwood Mac observation. Does anyone else think that the song Peacekeeper sounds just like a slightly slower version of the Paul Simon song Kodachrome? Every time I hear it on the radio, I start singing the Simon lyrics.

a(When I think back On all the crap I learned in high school)V

Bad_Rich_Chic · 04-16-2003, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Anne Elk
How about a little "Muskrat Love" then? My sister and I thought that song was great! Then again we were both in single digits.

Ah, cripes, you remind me of the Mr. going off about that very song just this weekend. He was remembering, sometime in the mid to late '80s, getting a lift from an older brother who was playing a tape with Muskrat Love on it, which the Mr. (quite the music snob, then and now) had never heard before. He listened for about a verse and then turned to his brother incredulously and said "what the FUCK IS THIS?" The brother (who would have been in HS when it came out and so had no excuse) just laughed and laughed. I had to admit that I remembered it from when it actually came out (I, too, was in the single digits), but I sort of thought it was a Disney-type thing.

The Mr. reports he was scarred for life but the creepy little squeeky muskrat whoopee noises. :blush:

BR(and who can blame him? Oh, and Imust try out the smiley I am sure was left just for me: :whip: )C

bilmore · 04-16-2003, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I hate Steely Dan. Awful lounge music.

I had every record that you listed on your earlier post, but can't figure out what you would hate about Steely Dan? Granted, they have a very different, non-hc-rock sound, but they were/are master musicians, and put together some great stuff. Aja is basically jazz/latin/rock merged, so it doesn't fit into any easy label, but the stuff is still damn good.

sebastian_dangerfield · 04-16-2003, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I'm guessing you don't mean "Tales of the Topographic Oceans" from Yes, so I'm guessing you mean:

Pink Floyd "Obscured by Clouds"?
Hot Tuna "Burgers"?
Neil Young "Harvest"?
Genesis "Foxtrot"?
GD "Europe 72"?
Stills "Manassas"?
CCR "Mardi Gras"?
ZZ Top "Rio Grande Mud"? [note - I had to google this one]
Tull "Living in the Past"?
Steely Dan "Can't Buy a Thrill"?
the aforementioned Deep Purple "Machine Head"
Elton John "Honkey Chateau"

although I'm personally going with Sabbath's "Volume 4" or Bowie's "Ziggy Stardust"

not7y(Close to the Edge was 72, Oceans was actually '73, if you care)S

Exile would be too easy. I assume this is a trick question with an obscure answer.

Not Blood on The Tracks... that's good, but not that good.

This question kills me... gimme the answer - you can PM it if you like.

evenodds · 04-16-2003, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
I had every record that you listed on your earlier post, but can't figure out what you would hate about Steely Dan? Granted, they have a very different, non-hc-rock sound, but they were/are master musicians, and put together some great stuff. Aja is basically jazz/latin/rock merged, so it doesn't fit into any easy label, but the stuff is still damn good.

I think it depends on when you first happened upon Steely Dan. They were so innovative that some of their stuff might seem trite if you came upon it after their idiom was coopted.

Even(love Steely Dan and Donald Fagen's Nightfly)Odds

SlaveNoMore · 04-16-2003, 02:42 PM

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spookyfish
...some severely overrated ones (like Fleetwood Mac, for example)

Fleetwood Mac is hardly overrated. Overplayed - most definitelty - but overrated?

Ask any guitar player and they will tell you how underrated Lindsay is. Same thing for Mick's drumming.

Secondly, anyone discussing Mac needs to include their long, long history prior to the Lindsay/Stevie era beginning in 1975, including their Chicago blues records with Peter Green. Phenomenal stuff.

Don't get me started on Sabbath, lest I start discussing the much underrated "Technical Ectasy" LP.

not7yS

SlaveNoMore · 04-16-2003, 02:47 PM

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evenodds
I think it depends on when you first happened upon Steely Dan. They were so innovative that some of their stuff might seem trite if you came upon it after their idiom was coopted.

Even(love Steely Dan and Donald Fagen's Nightfly)Odds

I loathed Steely Dan until I was about 26. Then, someone whose musical opinions I highly respect, suggested I give them a fresh listen. It was a revelation to me how much I enjoyed them.

Their lyrics are biting and their arrangements are so damn precise. Great, great stuff.

And if you buy the boxed set - you get all their albums [save the 2 recent ones] on 4 CDs

not7y(are you with me Doctor Wu)S