Politics: J'accuse!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I think anyone who is incredibly vocal about racism either way is unlikely to be made CEO of a company, make partner at a big firm, or get elected by any large-ish polity (e.g., maybe in the incredibly gerrymandered H of R but not the S).

accord.
I've written 3 posts re. the racism issue today on FB, and deleted each because I can't predict the reaction, and the likilihood of being really disliked from such a post is too high (even more so than I'm now disliked)

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Yet Lani Guinier has tenure at Harvard. Things that make you go hmmmm.

A CEO of even a not so big company has a lot more impact on a lot more people than Lani Guinier has over pretty much anyone. Given the number of people who manage to keep their conservative viewpoints despite going to such hotbeds of liberalism as Harvard, it doesn't seem like she has an effect on much of anyone, other than maybe getting more opportunites to be published and speak -- and you can choose to disagree with her views.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
accord.
I've written 3 posts re. the racism issue today on FB, and deleted each because I can't predict the reaction, and the likilihood of being really disliked from such a post is too high (even more so than I'm now disliked)

That's your problem, not their (our) problem. I don't care enough if people are going to think I'm a baby killer for being pro-choice to say I'm not pro-choice if it comes up. You apparently do care enough about whether people think you are a racist for saying whatever it is you might say to not say it, even though the topic is at hand.

Creampuff.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Let's put it this way, I certainly thought twice before opening my mouth again in that class. Practically speaking I was left with a choice - does my desire to make this particular point and add to the market place of ideas outweigh the fallout that will likely result? In most cases it did, but there were times where I censored myself.

Self-censorship is not censorship. It's effective time management.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
That's your problem, not their (our) problem. I don't care enough if people are going to think I'm a baby killer for being pro-choice to say I'm not pro-choice if it comes up. You apparently do care enough about whether people think you are a racist for saying whatever it is you might say to not say it, even though the topic is at hand.

Creampuff.

Exactly. so my very important thoughts are not put out there, which IS your problem....

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Conservatives:

(1) Believe that the academy's major failing is that it permits consequence-free experimental thought that would get "no traction" in the real world, but simultaneously object to the existence of a purely social phenomenon within the academy that is inarguably a precise reflection of outside realities, except that the beat-down that you get for offending someone personally is merely verbal instead of physical, and the sense of community if often such that people with defend someone else, even an absent party, from perceived offense. Conservatives regard the defense of absent parties as dirty pool, because they harbor the belief that the absent party has a 50/50 shot of agreeing with them, but have no opportunity to establish this because it too often defies common sense ("if there were a poor immigrant in this room here at Dartmouth, they would agree they have equal opportunities to me").

(2) Trust that unregulated free markets always produce things that enough people want, except there are inexplicably no first-rate colleges or universities with majority conservative tenured faculty, and no significant mass media with conservative voices. Majorities can be trusted to be a reflection of market demand, except in the highly competitive marketplaces of college selection and media consumption.

I invite someone from the other side of the aisle to attempt a fair summary of liberal thought on the above topics.

Liberals:

Oversimplify, generalize, and quietly embed false premises upon which they then rely.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Self-censorship is not censorship. It's effective time management.

No offense, but anyone with four digit posts numbers hasn't clue 1 about time management.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Exactly. so my very important thoughts are not put out there, which IS your problem....

If they are that important, you should put them out there. Obviously, you don't think they are that important.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by bilmore
Liberals:

Oversimplify, generalize, and quietly embed false premises upon which they then rely.

The best part about lampooning the other side's position is that you know you've hit the perfect balance between unfair and plausible when Bilmore's pissed.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by bilmore
Liberals:

Oversimplify, generalize, and quietly embed false premises upon which they then rely.

That's funny. You are oversimplifying and generalizing while embedding the false premise that complexity and detailed specificity are really all this is about.

Edited to move modifier "all" to where I think it should be, on brief reflection.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
No offense, but anyone with four digit posts numbers hasn't clue 1 about time management.

Anyone with four digit post numbers who still has a job does.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
If they are that important, you should put them out there. Obviously, you don't think they are that important.

Fringe, you know my posts are the fucking Magna Carta of thoughtful insights.

The fact that I'm victorian in some respect- calling off the engagement because of the broken hymen, horseback riding- ok sure- but broken is broken, doesn't mean I don't have sensitive insights for today's times on other issues.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
The best part about lampooning the other side's position is that you know you've hit the perfect balance between unfair and plausible when Bilmore's pissed.

I'm giving you the wrong impression. I was laughing.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
That's funny. You are oversimplifying and generalizing while embedding the false premise that complexity and detailed specificity are really all this is about.

See, AG, she gets it.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Anyone with four digit post numbers who still has a job does.

Can you imagine how much covering for Ty's ass sidd must have to do?