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Old 08-22-2004, 03:20 PM   #2491
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Only a very small, select group of elite men have seen my hoo-ha. And only after the proper investment.
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Old 08-23-2004, 12:22 AM   #2492
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Only a very small, select group of elite men have seen my hoo-ha. And only after the proper investment.
So we're only really talking price points now, are we?
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Old 08-23-2004, 12:51 AM   #2493
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So we're only really talking price points now, are we?
It isn't about money. It is about what the money represents. Investment also covers time investment and emotional investment.
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Old 08-23-2004, 02:21 AM   #2494
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To the unwitting reader who doesn't follow the details of national stories (e.g., the 50%+ who thought that Saddam Hussein built Osama bin Laden from clay), the story came across as an authoritative contradiction of the Swiftees. But that was just the tone, not necessarily the substance within the article.

What is clear from the article is that Kerry fragged himself in the ass and then was wounded (again) slightly later because he bumped his arm around the time of an explosion which presumably was caused by enemy munitions (of course, its hard to guarantee as this part of the story is told immediately after the part where its made clear that Kerry wasn't too careful with his own). Believe me, I'm doing my best not to put quotes around the term "wounded" there, but I think think the description of hte incident is enough. Than again, in my old stressful life, I used to tell my coworkers that every day was a potential sick day, because there is probably something or other that ain't perfect on any given day. Similarly, I'm wounding my fingers typing this message into the keyboard. 3 Purple Hearts and out, right?

What I really, really, really liked in the article though, was that Kerry's "diaries" were written circa 1971. That's a cute trick. For. Describing. 1969.
Whoa. Pass the bong, dude. Don't know where *that* came from, but it sure wasn't the article I posted.

To be fair, I'm sure that when you glue individual pages of Unfit to Command to your bedroom walls, the different stories tend to blur together.

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In stark contrast, Kerry is an insecure and sanctimonious little prick. So he see's the attack, and rather than letting out a belly laugh, he gets a serious look on his face and actually tries to debate half of the flippin Vietnam era navy. The smart thing to do would have been to make a few jokes about it, and never address it with a serious comment.

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Kerry looks plainly pissed. And whiny. And shrill. And pathetic. There is no way he comes out of a battle with hundreds of his contemporary veterans looking good. The only real choice here was not to directly engage. All in all, this has been a disaster for Kerry.
That's close, but the remaining GOP talking points require you to say that he sounds "unhinged" and "possibly unfit to govern." This was the language that they tagged Gore with during the 2000 election, and ultimately it worked pretty well.

I don't really know the best way for Kerry to deal with the issue. He's determined not to sit there and take it like Dukakis, thank God. The trick is to be effective in repudiating it without looking whiny or getting sunk by it anyway (for the latter, see McCain in 2000).

This FEC thing plus the comments by Edwards over the weekend seem risky, but who knows? It does seem like KE'04 has decided that they can't live with this state of affairs through November, and current moves seem geared to place the spotlight unflinchingly on GWB so that people will see how he reacts.
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Old 08-23-2004, 02:22 AM   #2495
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It isn't about money. It is about what the money represents. Investment also covers time investment and emotional investment.
Wow. Alan Alda paid to see your hoo-ha?
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Old 08-23-2004, 03:34 AM   #2496
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I congratulate the Oompa-Loopmas on their admission to the Green Berets. Frankly, the uniform alone is an improvement.
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I congratulate the Oompa-Loopmas on their admission to the Green Berets. Frankly, the uniform alone is an improvement.
I was just reading about the Green Berets, and how, contrary to the myth of the Beret's being hulking supermen, members of the Green Berets are likely to be much smaller than the average man, both short and wirey, with a much higher than average intellegence and a strong gift for languages. Apparently the small size is a distinct advantage in surviving in extreme conditions (and after all, a guy 5'4" can shoot a gun just as well as someone a foot taller - I think size advantage went out with the sword).

So the Oompa-Loompas might be a good fit, once you get them out of the factory and they drop a few pounds.
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I was just reading about the Green Berets, and how, contrary to the myth of the Beret's being hulking supermen, members of the Green Berets are likely to be much smaller than the average man, both short and wirey, with a much higher than average intellegence and a strong gift for languages. Apparently the small size is a distinct advantage in surviving in extreme conditions (and after all, a guy 5'4" can shoot a gun just as well as someone a foot taller - I think size advantage went out with the sword).

So the Oompa-Loompas might be a good fit, once you get them out of the factory and they drop a few pounds.
I'm not going to post a link, but if you'd been paying attention, you'd have read that here several times over the last few years. It specifically applies to Ranger school, where they starve you for weeks while they run you through cycles. But I digress; it seemed like nobody here believes it (cept you and me).

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Wow. Alan Alda paid to see your hoo-ha?
It is not a cash transaction. It is more akin to the barter system. This way, taxes are avoided. Always a good thing.
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I congratulate the Oompa-Loopmas on their admission to the Green Berets. Frankly, the uniform alone is an improvement.
The men are not small. It is the number of men that is small.

Actually, whether the men are small depends on what we are talking about. If we are talking about height, well, they have ranged from a bit below average to above average. If we are talking about ahem, well, I am not a fan of big poo-pas. When confronted with a very large poo-pa in person, I run.
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Whoa. Pass the bong, dude. Don't know where *that* came from, but it sure wasn't the article I posted.

To be fair, I'm sure that when you glue individual pages of Unfit to Command to your bedroom walls, the different stories tend to blur together.
Too much information for me to cite properly, but I swear I read it on the Tribune site. There was an accompanying article after all, which I now can't find.

At least some of it was here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Aug21.html

But i don't have time to reread it at the moment, as i have a meeting. I'll edit this post if I'm wrong.

Just search for the term "grenade", for example.

ETA the following quotes from the article:

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"As they were heading back to the boat, Kerry and Rassmann decided to blow up a five-ton rice bin to deny food to the Vietcong... On the count of three, they tossed their grenades into the hole and ran. Evidently, Kerry did not run fast enough. "He got some frags and pieces of rice in his rear end," Rassmann said with a laugh. "It was more embarrassing than painful."


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"In "Tour of Duty," these thoughts are attributed to a "diary" kept by Kerry. But the endnotes to Brinkley's book say that Kerry "did not keep diaries in these weeks in February and March 1969 when the fighting was most intense." In the acknowledgments to his book, Brinkley suggests that he took at least some of the passages from an unfinished book proposal Kerry prepared sometime after November 1971, more than two years after he had returned home from Vietnam. "


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The men are not small. It is the number of men that is small.

Actually, whether the men are small depends on what we are talking about. If we are talking about height, well, they have ranged from a bit below average to above average. If we are talking about ahem, well, I am not a fan of big poo-pas. When confronted with a very large poo-pa in person, I run.
Little by little my dreams are dashed, but what's worse if she seems to be describing my nemesis, Sidd, as her dream date.
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:18 AM   #2503
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Little by little my dreams are dashed, but what's worse if she seems to be describing my nemesis, Sidd, as her dream date.
The only women who like really big poo-pas are women who have had a bunch of kids.

If a guy has a small thingy, my recommendation is that he not get his wife pregnant.
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Given this kind of reality why does Kerry want to question redeployment from places where our troops serve no good?
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