All Hank, all the time.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
It's funny you should say that. The Jewish homeland is where it is at least in part because the conservatives of the US and Britain didn't want "them" coming to their own backyards.

Right, I blame Truman. And the Kennedy's. We know where old Daddy Joe's sentiments did lay.

Little known fact: Both Mary Jo Kopechne and Martha Moxley had Jewish heritage.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Is it positive enough to overcome the clear wrong of killing innocents? .

Yes. Unfortunately.

Originally posted by taxwonk
Is it positive enough to overcome the clear wrong of killing innocents? Remember Elian before you answer, oh master of the black and white unless it's inconvenient.

Relevancy? No war. No other purpose. Three oppressive commies conspired to deprive an innocent of his natural rights for no greater purpose than their own nefariousness.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sgtclub
The proposed peace between Israel and Hez/Leb that I understand you propose would be enforced by US soldiers.

No, I posited that without intervention there will be no peace. Ever. Others are suggesting that this conflict has a possible resolution.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Right, I blame Truman. And the Kennedy's. We know where old Daddy Joe's sentiments did lay.

Little known fact: Both Mary Jo Kopechne and Martha Moxley had Jewish heritage.

It was pretty much everyone on both sides of the aisle, including Ike.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Yes. Unfortunately.




Relevancy? No war. No other purpose. Three oppressive commies conspired to deprive an innocent of his natural rights for no greater purpose than their own nefariousness.

The relevancy is that you are all for the sanctity of children, except when you don't like their parents.

And do please drop the "oppressive commies" bullshit. It makes me picture you as Archie Bunker.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I think that they might be as willing to kill American soldiers, but with an occupation force in their neighborhoods, they won't be as able. Furthermore, with troops in the Gaza and Lebanon and Haifa, etc. full-time, there will be more ability to distinguish between enemy and civilian. What's more, when you do a door-to-door sweep of a building looking for terrorists, you are bound to kill fewer civilians than when you just drop a bomb and level the fucker and everybody inside it.

What do you do when the enemy is a civilian? Terrorists, insurgents, call them what you will, they don't wear uniforms.

These guys are ahead of us, because they know that the US (and Israeli) military are set up to fight other militaries. But they changed the rules. They don't wear uniforms, and no, they are not going to come out and fight like men. They are going to continue setting off roadside bombs and firing from mosques and using civilians as shields because - guess what - it works.

Now we have to adapt to that. We have to add a capability to wage war on a closer, more face to face level. We need to be fighting and winning hearts and minds wars, because just blowing people up on the off chance you'll hit an insurgent or Hezbollah is like using a hammer for brain surgery. And we have to do that while maintaining awareness of what distinguishes us from them.

We can start in Iraq by saying "Fuck the candy - we're handing out cheeseburgers and triple-chocolate milk shakes." Drop Shakira video collection DVDs from the air, and every kid under the age of 18 gets a Super Soaker. iPods for everyone. Drown 'em in American pop culture, and bring the troops home!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
What do you do when the enemy is a civilian? Terrorists, insurgents, call them what you will, they don't wear uniforms.

These guys are ahead of us, because they know that the US (and Israeli) military are set up to fight other militaries. But they changed the rules. They don't wear uniforms, and no, they are not going to come out and fight like men. They are going to continue setting off roadside bombs and firing from mosques and using civilians as shields because - guess what - it works.

Now we have to adapt to that. We have to add a capability to wage war on a closer, more face to face level. We need to be fighting and winning hearts and minds wars, because just blowing people up on the off chance you'll hit an insurgent or Hezbollah is like using a hammer for brain surgery. And we have to do that while maintaining awareness of what distinguishes us from them.

We can start in Iraq by saying "Fuck the candy - we're handing out cheeseburgers and triple-chocolate milk shakes." Drop Shakira video collection DVDs from the air, and every kid under the age of 18 gets a Super Soaker. iPods for everyone. Drown 'em in American pop culture, and bring the troops home!

Shakira is Colombian (and is of Lebanese descent, oddly enough), but otherwise I'm with you 100%.

eta"."

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Shakira is Colombian (and is of Lebanese descent, oddly enough), but otherwise I'm with you 100%.

eta"."

Some on this board apparently might prefer to drop Mimi Miyagi videos, but I'm concerned about the children.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
It was pretty much everyone on both sides of the aisle, including Ike.

I never loved Ike. Patton yes. McArthur yes. Ike, eh. Thank g-d Reagan purged him from the party.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
The relevancy is that you are all for the sanctity of children, except when you don't like their parents.

Hmm perhaps. Generally I don't like children, other than my own (on whose birth certificates my name exists) and my biological issue with Hank's wife, but despite parentage I generally think children are innocent of transgressions whereby they deserve to be bombed. But of course, there are exceptions.

eta: and Elian's saintly, of course.

Originally posted by taxwonk


And do please drop the "oppressive commies" bullshit.

Sorry, it's redundant isn't it?

Originally posted by taxwonk

It makes me picture you as Archie Bunker.

I liked All in the Family. I miss the innocence of my youth.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by taxwonk
No, I posited that without intervention there will be no peace. Ever. Others are suggesting that this conflict has a possible resolution.

Weren't you the one who wanted an international/US force to go into N. Israel/S. Lebanon?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Some on this board apparently might prefer to drop Mimi Miyagi videos, but I'm concerned about the children.

Hmm. If you mean me, wrong again. While I appreciate Mimi's art, anyone who follows my blogs and other presences on the World Wide Web are well aware of my long standing relationship with Shakira. FWIW, I was the original "shakira's boyfriend" sock.

Hips don't lie, indeed.

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Shakira is Colombian (and is of Lebanese descent, oddly enough), but otherwise I'm with you 100%.

eta"."

My telephone ringin' it would not stop
It was President Kennedy callin' me up
He said "Bob whadda we need to make the country grow?"
I said "John - Brigid Bardot.
Anita Ekberg. Sophia Loren.
Country'll grow."

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I miss the innocence of my youth.

Playing Kiss covers, beautiful and stoned.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ironweed
My telephone ringin' it would not stop
It was President Kennedy callin' me up
He said "Bob whadda we need to make the country grow?"
I said "John - Brigid Bardot.
Anita Ekberg. Sophia Loren.
Country'll grow."

Dude- your writing is so confused in even simple posts that I don't know whether you're Irish or Scottish- work on simple exposition before you try to stretch and convey complex thoughts like whatever you intend here- i mean WTF?