Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Sidd Finch]

The Israeli Defense Forces official website:

http://www1.idf.il/DOVER/site/homepa...=-8888&force=1


A search for "suicide bombers" gets 135 hits. "Suicide bomber," 105. "Suicide bombing," 165.

"Homicide bombers," zero. "Homicide bomber," zero. "Homicide bombing," zero.


Let me guess -- once they changed the terminology, the bombings stopped!

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch


I thought not. If you can't answer a simple question (do you believe they did, or do you believe they didn't?), you certainly can't stay on the topic.

I think that the current evidence does not support the allegations but I am open to whatever truth is eventually revealed. I am not rooted in one unproven truth over another. I am liberal in my thinking. Why are you so closeminded?

Originally posted by Sidd Finch

Your suggestion that Arafat was my hero (since I'm a liberal) is up there with your suggestion that Byrd is my consience (since I'm a Democrat) -- proof that you are incapable of defending what you say, or what your party does, without resorting to the baseless, vicious, and moronic. Cheers!

More baseless distortion, I said "he was their hero". Apparently he was. they pimped him for the Nobel Peace Prize and he got it. They attempted to give him a big chunk of Israel and for what? A reward for decades of murdering innocent women and children. If Hitler came back would they give a chunk of Germany?

OTOH, Bush, whom you vilify, didn't deal with a murderer and eventually the leader of the homicide bombers withered and died. If Gore had been elected he would still be killing. On the Clintons dime.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
The Israeli Defense Forces official website:

Nice title, I like the way you try to drag down a soldier, who fought honourably for his country against the terrorists, whose leader the Clintons supported. The politics of personal destruction know no bounds.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I think that the current evidence does not support the allegations but I am open to whatever truth is eventually revealed. I am not rooted in one unproven truth over another. I am liberal in my thinking. Why are you so closeminded?

You can form a belief, without being close-minded or unwilling to change that belief when confronted with new evidence.

That you claim not to have formed a belief, despite god knows how many hours spent jerking off over right-wing websites and fantasizing that their stories might be true, is evidence only of your intellectual dishonesty.

And, as I said before, your complete lack of balls. You rant and rave about the Clintons' "crimes, but when challenged to say what you believe, you cop out.

You know that if you say you don't believe it, then the balloon of your ranting is popped.

And you know that if you say you do, you appear crazy, and you force everyone to admit that the whole "the Clintons are murderers!" crap is not just a schtick for you. (As I know it is not).

More baseless distortion, I said "he was their hero". Apparently he was. they pimped him for the Nobel Peace Prize and he got it. They attempted to give him a big chunk of Israel and for what? A reward for decades of murdering innocent women and children. If Hitler came back would they give a chunk of Germany?

And this is relevant to the use of the term "suicide bomber", rather than the meaningless term "homicide bomber", how?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Nice title, I like the way you try to drag down a soldier, who fought honourably for his country against the terrorists, whose leader the Clintons supported. The politics of personal destruction know no bounds.

What in god's name are you talking about?

If the point of my title wasn't clear, then let me clarify: I think when you resorted to citing what an unidentified neighbor told you, that you were delusional -- not just about what you were told, but about what you believe about your neighbor's background. Or maybe even his existence.

And I thought in Penske-land the Clintons supported Arafat. Now I'm all confused.

But, in any event, one thing is clear -- your suggestion that using the term "suicide bombers" reflects sympathy for them is absurd.

OTOH, I'm impressed that, when shown how absurd your argument was, you managed not to post another photo from your one-handed websites. Good job, Penske! It's a first step for you!

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
You can form a belief, without being close-minded or unwilling to change that belief when confronted with new evidence.

That you claim not to have formed a belief, despite god knows how many hours spent jerking off over right-wing websites and fantasizing that their stories might be true, is evidence only of your intellectual dishonesty.

And, as I said before, your complete lack of balls. You rant and rave about the Clintons' "crimes, but when challenged to say what you believe, you cop out.

You know that if you say you don't believe it, then the balloon of your ranting is popped.

And you know that if you say you do, you appear crazy, and you force everyone to admit that the whole "the Clintons are murderers!" crap is not just a schtick for you. (As I know it is not).

You are truly obsessed. You need the DSM IV or anti-psychotics. I have said, repeatedly, that they are criminals. I firmly believe that they place their own interests above those of their respective offices or the constitution. What the details and the breadth of all of their crimes are or how far they would go in the pursuit of power, I don't know. I look forward to the facts coming out. I suppose I should go read liberal reporter Ed Klein's new book and get some more details. What is unclear about that?

I think your constant use of ad hominen attacks is evidence that you realize there is no there there. At least not the there you want to be there.

Originally posted by Sidd Finch


And this is relevant to the use of the term "suicide bomber", rather than the meaningless term "homicide bomber", how?

It is part of a concerted campaign to give aid and comfort to the enemy. It starts with giving a baby killer a Nobel Peace Prize and leads to attaching PC terms to simple acts of killers and terrorists.

Rachael Corrie is probably looking up from hell, proud that her mindless defence and softening of killers is perpetuated.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch


If the point of my title wasn't clear, then let me clarify: I think when you resorted to citing what an unidentified neighbor told you, that you were delusional -- not just about what you were told, but about what you believe about your neighbor's background. Or maybe even his existence.

Sidd, given your vast experience in the Israeli army I defer to you. I'm fairly certain Slave met my Israeli neighbour, but obviously you have no respect for the word of defenders of liberty.

Originally posted by Sidd Finch


And I thought in Penske-land the Clintons supported Arafat. Now I'm all confused.

They do. Do you dispute that?

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Rachael Corrie is probably looking up from hell, proud that her mindless defence and softening of killers is perpetuated.

Was your neighbor the one who ran over her with the bulldozer? In defense of the nation, I mean.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
blah blah Clinton murderer blah blah homicide murderer bomber blah blah blah hillary lesbian blah blah blah.

The horse is well past dead, Penske. So I'll just give a brief recap:

1. Despite my asking you innumerable times whether you do or do not believe that the Clintons murdered anyone, ordered anyone murdered, or conspired to murder anyone, you could not answer. Just more blather about how they've been accused a lot, and vince foster, and maybe if the facts come out, blah blah blah.

When and if you find your balls, let me know. 'Till then, my conclusion is that you believe it, but are too embarassed by that belief to admit it.


2. Your PC-linguistic bullshit is nothing more than that. You asked for a cite, I gave you several. You cited an unidentified neighbor, I showed you the IDF website.

In Penske-land, perhaps, using the term "homicide bomber" would have led to the collapse of Hezbollah, the worldwide condemnation of Arafat, and so much more. Pity the IDF continues to give aid and comfort to the enemy, huh? (Try telling your neighbor that you believe that's what the IDF does every time they say "suicide bomber" instead of "homicide bomber" -- that oughta be an interesting conversation).


3. In general, you are nuts, but it's nice to watch you sputter and try to shift the discussion when confronted with how wrong you are. But still, nuts.

Tonight, pull up some photos on the web of Hillary with her eyes crossed. It'll make you feel better (don't do it too much or you'll go blind.)



To everyone else -- sorry for taking up so much time with this. It was time someone called bullshit on Penske. I won't do it again -- I billed maybe four hours today and can't afford this shit.




Oh, I almost forgot:

4. You hate this country, because it elected Clinton -- who you compare to Stalin (boldly admitting it's not an "act for act" comparison, just degree. As if there were degrees of tyrants, dictators, masters of genocide and mass murderers.) And you hate your part of the country, because you see anti-Bush bumper stickers and that makes you feel that you must, just must, call the Clintons murderers and all that crap. As I said, doubly sad, and doubly pathetic. But, once again, you still have your web photos.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
The horse is well past dead, Penske. So I'll just give a brief recap:

1. Despite my asking you innumerable times whether you do or do not believe that the Clintons murdered anyone, ordered anyone murdered, or conspired to murder anyone, you could not answer. Just more blather about how they've been accused a lot, and vince foster, and maybe if the facts come out, blah blah blah.

When and if you find your balls, let me know. 'Till then, my conclusion is that you believe it, but are too embarassed by that belief to admit it.

Wrong. Please explain how I can make a determination without all of the evidence. Obviously the Clintons are criminals, I just do not know with any certainty the extent of their crimes. Not hard to understand, if you can't you must be stupid or brain dead.

Originally posted by Sidd Finch

2. Your PC-linguistic bullshit is nothing more than that. You asked for a cite, I gave you several. You cited an unidentified neighbor, I showed you the IDF website.

In Penske-land, perhaps, using the term "homicide bomber" would have led to the collapse of Hezbollah, the worldwide condemnation of Arafat, and so much more. Pity the IDF continues to give aid and comfort to the enemy, huh? (Try telling your neighbor that you believe that's what the IDF does every time they say "suicide bomber" instead of "homicide bomber" -- that oughta be an interesting conversation)..

I cited a real conversation with a real person, if you can't handle that I don't what to tell you. Its impossible to discuss something with someone who consistently resorts to mindless pejoratives. I am not sure why you are so vested in creating an aura of sympathy for killers and fight so hard against calling them what they are but I am sure its based on your tolerant open mindedness. like all of your pals in the Democratic party.

Originally posted by Sidd Finch


3. In general, you are nuts, but it's nice to watch you sputter and try to shift the discussion when confronted with how wrong you are. But still, nuts.

Tonight, pull up some photos on the web of Hillary with her eyes crossed. It'll make you feel better (don't do it too much or you'll go blind.)

Politics of personal destruction. Nice touch. the Clintons are proud.

Originally posted by Sidd Finch


4. You hate this country, because it elected Clinton -- who you compare to Stalin (boldly admitting it's not an "act for act" comparison, just degree. As if there were degrees of tyrants, dictators, masters of genocide and mass murderers.) And you hate your part of the country, because you see anti-Bush bumper stickers and that makes you feel that you must, just must, call the Clintons murderers and all that crap. As I said, doubly sad, and doubly pathetic. But, once again, you still have your web photos.

No, frankly I would you are the hater. You disparage the President as a dummy and liar. You dismiss the majority of the country who voted for him as idiots and religious zealots. You support the leaders of your party and fellow liberals who seek to teach such hatred and intolerance to the youth of the country. Your party obstructs the President's policy and appointees in disregard of the policies the election validated. You defend criminals who denigrated the office of the President with lies and abused that office for their own personal gain. I, on the other hand, don't perpetuate hatred of my fellow Americans or their ideas (rather I express hatred of acts that are criminal and denigrate our institutions and encourage people to critically examine why those acts are so injurious to the liberties we enjoy)

I would say your posture compounded by your obsession with attacking me on an internet chatboard is sad and pathetic.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by ironweed
Was your neighbor the one who ran over her with the bulldozer? In defense of the nation, I mean.

No such luck.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I won't do it again -- I billed maybe four hours today and can't afford this shit.

Time wasting mutherfucker.

eta: i have been admonished on IM for not taking responsbility for my role in today's exercise. I am not a victim, I'm co-equally responsible. If only the Clintons were so gracious in accepting responsibility for their misdeeds

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Would you let your daughter get into any type motorized vehicle with a male kennedy? answer the question.

Yes. Do I get a "thanks for playing!"?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
That term makes you sound like a goddamned rube. You're entitled to an opinion, and your shit is well thought out, but that kind of jackass sloganeering is below even this board.

Even if his tongue is in his cheek?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
You're close, I hate how they defecated on the office of the Presidency.

The true Clinton-haters -- and you seem to be one of them -- hated Clinton for this reason on Day One of his presidency for reasons that I've never quite been able to get. They -- you -- never accepted him as legitimate, and although Clinton gave you eight years of acts which you could complain about, that was only the icing on the cake.