Politics As Usual

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
8 years of peace and prosperity are a bitch.

When your president is too busy over the course of those 8 years getting his dick sucked off to effectively address a growing terrorist threat to the US, even passing up the option to take OBL into custody, you bet it is a bitch. If Clinton had paid as much attention to terrorism as he paid to sticking cigars in ML, 9/11 might never have happened.

Those 9/11 murderers were in this country for over 2 years prior to 9/11. Under Clinton, his AG and Assitant AG erected a wall between intelligence agencies that played a critical role in the intelligence failures that resulted in 9/11. Moreover, Clinton's ineffective responses to terrorist attacks like the bombing of the USS Cole seriously endangered this country.

[Not Me]

Krauthammer article worth reading:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/c...20040618.shtml

The article is about Israel's effective response to the Intifada. Too bad Clinton didn't take the same actions against terrorists during his tenure. If he had, 3000 people who died on 9/11 might still be alive.

[the Spartan]

Originally posted by Not Me
Under Clinton, his AG and Assitant AG erected a wall between intelligence agencies that played a critical role in the intelligence failures that resulted in 9/11. .

Uhm, I don't think the AG under Clinton erected anything. It was a schtrap-on.

But more seriously, at least she put the smack down on that Waco, Texas uprising. Just think of what would have happened if that insurgency had been left to fester and metastasize.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by the Spartan But more seriously, at least she put the smack down on that Waco, Texas uprising. Just think of what would have happened if that insurgency had been left to fester and metastasize.

Why do repubs insist on defending domestic terrorists like Koresh? Do you share Coulter's regret about McVeigh that he didn't blow up the NYT's building?

[the Spartan]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Why do repubs insist on defending domestic terrorists like Koresh?

Remind me again of all of the terrorist acts he and his posse engaged in. And notwithstanding that lengthy list, rather than BBQ them up, wouldn't it have been more humane to just to deport them to Cuba like they did with that commie insurgent Elian?

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Do you share Coulter's regret about McVeigh that he didn't blow up the NYT's building?

I regret that Clinton and Reno covered up the Iraqi connection to McVeigh and Nichols. Obviously that connection is another justification for taking Saddam out in Bush's grand prosecution of the War on Terror!

eta: I'm an independent.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by the Spartan
Remind me again of all of the terrorist acts he and his posse engaged in. And notwithstanding that lengthy list, rather than BBQ them up, wouldn't it have been more humane to just to deport them to Cuba like they did with that commie insurgent Elian?




I regret that Clinton and Reno covered up the Iraqi connection to McVeigh and Nichols. Obviously that connection is another justification for taking Saddam out in Bush's grand prosecution of the War on Terror!

eta: I'm an independent.

LOL!!!

[the Spartan]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
LOL!!!

laugh while you can lizard-boy!

[Say_hello_for_me]

Have a beer or glass of wine tonight, and raise it in toast to this great nation. Despite at least a few losses of life in Saudi Arabia and Iraq, this weekend has been filled with good news.

The head of Al Queda in SA was killed alongside his deputy. Cheers.

The head of an Al Queda affiliated branch in Algeria was killed, along with 4 deputies. Cheers.

A prominent Pakistani tribesmen who offered significant support to Al Queda and Taliban members was killed, along with several deputies. Cheers.

It looks like the Fallujah airstrike may have killed 23 foreign terrorists and perhaps 3 Iraqi civilians. Even the NYT reporter senses that this is the case:
(http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/20/in...ND-FALLUJ.html)

Cheers.

And the City of Chicago announces homicides down 30% so far this year, though comparisons get tougher from here on out.

Cheers.

Love is all around you.

Hello

ETA the Fallujah stuff and a few extra cheers. Cheers.

ETA: Is our intelligence getting better suddenly?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Not Me
When your president is too busy over the course of those 8 years getting his dick sucked off to effectively address a growing terrorist threat to the US, even passing up the option to take OBL into custody, you bet it is a bitch. If Clinton had paid as much attention to terrorism as he paid to sticking cigars in ML, 9/11 might never have happened.

Those 9/11 murderers were in this country for over 2 years prior to 9/11. Under Clinton, his AG and Assitant AG erected a wall between intelligence agencies that played a critical role in the intelligence failures that resulted in 9/11. Moreover, Clinton's ineffective responses to terrorist attacks like the bombing of the USS Cole seriously endangered this country.

on the plus side, janet Reno gave SNL the only really funny thing it had going for it for years.

[sgtclub]

The commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks has been told "a very prominent member" of al Qaeda served as an officer in Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s militia, a panel member said on Sunday.

"Some of these documents indicate that (there was) at least one officer of Saddam's Fedayeen, a lieutenant colonel, who was a very prominent member of al Qaeda," Lehman said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ntelligence_dc

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by the Spartan
laugh while you can lizard-boy!

Doomed-a is-a your soul, and damned-a is-a your life.

Yr pal,

John Ya-ya

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by sgtclub
The commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks has been told "a very prominent member" of al Qaeda served as an officer in Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s militia, a panel member said on Sunday.

"Some of these documents indicate that (there was) at least one officer of Saddam's Fedayeen, a lieutenant colonel, who was a very prominent member of al Qaeda," Lehman said.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ntelligence_dc

Well, great - then we invaded the wrong country....

http://www.theunionleader.com/articl...?article=39521

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Well, great - then we invaded the wrong country....

Invade them all. Let God sort it out.

Seriously, though, one of the panel members on Fox News Sunday, I think it was Paul Gigot, said it best - you cannot hold the Prez to a "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard about these things before he acts after the US has been attacked by a foreign entity.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Have a beer or glass of wine tonight, and raise it in toast to this great nation. Despite at least a few losses of life in Saudi Arabia and Iraq, this weekend has been filled with good news.

Well, I think I will hold off for now:

• Four U.S. Soldiers Killed in Attack Near Baghdad, Reuters Says[
  
  June 21 (Bloomberg) -- Four U.S. soldiers were killed by Iraqi insurgents west of the capital, Baghdad, Reuters reported, citing unidentified witnesses.
  
  The bodies of the soldiers were found at a construction site in the town of Ramadi, the news agency reported. It wasn't immediately clear when they had been killed, Reuters said.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...top_world_news

[Skeks in the city]

Originally posted by Not Me

I think it was Paul Gigot, said it best - you cannot hold the Prez to a "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard about these things before he acts after the US has been attacked by a foreign entity.

The problem here is that Congress has lost its balls. The Constitution denies the president a unilateral power to declare war. That power is reserved for the Congress, and it can hold the president to whatever standard it chooses. If Congress had balls, it could have forced Bush to provide real evidence that there were likely WMD in Iraq and Saddam was likely to give WMD to terrorists that pose a threat to the US, or Saddam was at least likely to conspire with and assist terrorists that pose a threat to the US.

The Bush-ies couldn't have proven any of that. And we'd have had more money and troops to use against REAL terrorist threats, like Iran, Pakistan and Afganistan.