Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
For real. And I ain't even lying. Actually, I didn't get close enough to it to fully confirm its pig status. But it was long, low, and grunted while rooting around the ground at the bottom of the hill I was standing on. It was a good night. Earlier, a non-trippin' friend completely mind-fucked me with a camara flash unit. Later, I saw a trannie who had to go at least 6'6" walking down a random suburban street.

Where areyou from that you saw both a wild pig and a gigantic trannie in the same area?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Where areyou from that you saw both a wild pig and a gigantic trannie in the same area?

That could easily happen here.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
Well, I don't know what else to call them. African-American doesn't seem quite right because most are not African or American. Some are African, others are various islanders (Haiti, T&T, Aruba) with green cards. Privately the SO and I use tan, since he is tanner than I am, but I don't want to offend anyone in FB land.

So what is the PC phrase du jour?

Frankly, I don't think there is one.

We use "Islander" or the specific island (bahamian, trini, granadan, etc.) for the Islanders and the descendants of Islanders.

Here's a hint, though. If you find out your SO has white British relatives in those islands, he will generally not appreciate being called white or British.

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
That could easily happen here.

I understand there are feral pigs in and about Memorial park. So yes. Definitely.

-TL

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Cant wait to see Thurgrteed on this one. I call them cafe au lait myslf. or yummy caramel goodness.

Yeah, he'll probably yell at me again. Oh well.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by baltassoc
As to black people swimming, it's got to be experiential.

Concur. I've never seen a correlation. As for Islanders, well, people who live in waters teeming with sharks don't learn to swim like people living next to calm, friendly, non-human-eating lakes do.

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Where areyou from that you saw both a wild pig and a gigantic trannie in the same area?

A place with the nation's largest w/in city park and a decent freak quotient (though I still don't know what the trannie was doing in the 'burbs); a place with more strip clubs per capita than any other city in America; a place with good beer and shitty salaries. In other words, the same place I am now. If that's outable, well, fuck it.

And what, no props for using the old Spreewell "ain't even lyin'" line?

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by evenodds
Frankly, I don't think there is one.

We use "Islander" or the specific island (bahamian, trini, granadan, etc.) for the Islanders and the descendants of Islanders.

Here's a hint, though. If you find out your SO has white British relatives in those islands, he will generally not appreciate being called white or British.

Ahhh, that makes sense. Islander here in Bean-town usually refers to inhabitants of Nantucket or the Vineyard.

So to rephrase my earlier statement: none of my friends from Senegal, Kenya, Trinidad & Tobago, Haiti, Aruba, Jamaica, Brooklyn, or Springfield, Mass. know how to swim. The guy from Bermuda does, kinda.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I call them cafe au lait myslf. or yummy caramel goodness.

The OM hates being called cafe au lait and prefers the wildly inaccurate mochaccino.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by evenodds
Frankly, I don't think there is one.

We use "Islander" or the specific island (bahamian, trini, granadan, etc.) for the Islanders and the descendants of Islanders.

Here's a hint, though. If you find out your SO has white British relatives in those islands, he will generally not appreciate being called white or British.

How about the old fashioned "people of color".

For Brits everyone, I simply use "prig".

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Cant wait to see Thurgrteed on this one. I call them cafe au lait myslf. or yummy caramel goodness.

Is "people of color" still on the radar screen? I always hated that phrase, so I rather hope not. Sounds somehow like social-worker patronizing to me. Like being one of the "special" people who ride the short bus.

Thinking of this, I have a friend from south africa who says colored (or "coloured," I suppose) all the time, which is quite disconcerting. I think I find it much more disconcerting than if he were to refer to himself as a "nigger." He just laughs at the sour expressions on our faces and says "get the fuck over it."

Anyhow, if by "colored" one means to include "everyone but the white guys," why not just say "everyone but the white guys"? It seems the distinguishing factor is whiteness, not some miscellaneous non-white ethnicity. While the observation that pacific islanders, asians, west indians, africans, etc. are not correctly referred to as "african-americans," why should there be one all-encompasing term identifying their shared "other-non-whiteness"?

And, while I'm on the subject (sort of), what is this "black people don't swim" thing? I've never heard of this in my life, so I am doubly surprised to find so many people backing it annecdotally. Is this up there with "black people don't eat mayonaise," which seems a bizzarre and random thing to assert but apparently is annecdotally borne out? Where the hell do these kind of strange, seemingly fairly neutral, stereotypes come from?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by evenodds
The OM hates being called cafe au lait and prefers the wildly inaccurate mochaccino.

Double Tall, Grande or Venti?

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
A place with the nation's largest w/in city park and a decent freak quotient (though I still don't know what the trannie was doing in the 'burbs); a place with more strip clubs per capita than any other city in America; a place with good beer and shitty salaries. In other words, the same place I am now. If that's outable, well, fuck it.

Big park, check.
Plenty freaks, check.
Tittie bars galore, check....

This sounds terribly familiar.

-TL

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by AngryMulletMan
So, like, I keep having this recurring nightmare over and over where I show up for a test I never studied for. It's an algebra test and it's my evidence professor giving the test and he is really pissed because I skipped class for the entire semester. So he asks me what I know about algebra and my bubble totally bursts and to top it off, I miss the school bus home and have to walk all the way back, twenty miles, all uphill and I am so, like, out of shrooms.

So then I wake up and I am, like, totally pissed because I realize that going to work every fucking day sucks way more than flunking exams ever did.

And I'm not taking any fucking tests on the internet to tell me whether I am going to hell because I am, like, so totally there.

Why did you take a hiatus from posting? Welcome back from lurkland!

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
So to rephrase my earlier statement: none of my friends from Senegal, Kenya, Trinidad & Tobago, Haiti, Aruba, Jamaica, Brooklyn, or Springfield, Mass. know how to swim. The guy from Bermuda does, kinda.

This is silly (not you Anne, just this debate). My brother in law + nieces (black African although nieces are peculiarly considered white because of white mother) swim well because they are rich and swim at the freaking Nairobi club whenever they get the urge and they vacation in Mombassa and the Seychelles. I very much doubt that their housekeeper, gardener, nannies or driver knows how to swim because they are poor. Nothing to do with skin color. Everything to do with access to safe water (requires money).