Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[Tyrone Slothrop]

According to a Denver newspaper, Bush privately told the Colorado Representative backing the Federal Marriage Amendment last November that he would support it. In late January, he endorsed it to GOP House and Senate members in Philadelphia.

[Hank Chinaski]

You know all you smarter guys arguing about public servants ignoring laws and courts and just doing what they want, and how its might be okay?
Better wrap that shit up right quick.
The 10 Commandment Judge is considering a run for the presidency.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._moore01m.html

he has the trappings of a candidacy, including a following and a stump speech. Saturday night, ushers with red, white and blue buckets collected donations as the emcee assured people. "We're not keeping any of it. It's all going to the judge," he said. So does the $50 it cost to have a photo taken with Moore.

As a lower-court judge, Moore was sued over the Ten Commandments plaque he hung on his courtroom wall. In 2000, he was overwhelmingly elected chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court.

He had a 5,280-pound monument to the commandments installed in the rotunda of the state courts building and was sued for violating the separation of church and state.

He lost his job when a special ethics panel ruled against him in November for defying a court order to remove the monument. At his trial, the presiding judge said Moore should be removed in part because he had not shown contrition.

"I didn't then, and I do not now," he said Saturday to a rousing standing ovation.

Moore takes the stage after a video outlines his case with stirring music, huge undulating American flags and clips of Moore and his supporters in Alabama.

He quotes the nation's founders at great length, tells of Alice in Wonderland having a conversation with Humpty Dumpty and mixes in some jokes seemingly as old as the Gospels. ("A priest, a judge and a Boy Scout are on an airplane ... ").

He also doesn't think Pryor is really a conservative, if it's any comfort to you guys.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The 10 Commandment Judge is considering a run for the presidency.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._moore01m.html

He also doesn't think Pryor is really a conservative, if it's any comfort to you guys.

I would be so comforted if he ran. Run Roy run.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
I would be so comforted if he ran. Run Roy run.

He'll split the Buchanan vote- leaving the fringe with this tough choice "What's more important to me, loving Jesus or hating Jews?"

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
He'll split the Buchanan vote- leaving the fringe with this tough choice "What's more important to me, loving Jesus or hating Jews?"

He has a much greater chance of getting on the Democratic ticket. He can win in the South, he's had ethics panel problems, and he makes fun of Boy Scouts.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by bilmore
He has a much greater chance of getting on the Democratic ticket. He can win in the South, he's had ethics panel problems, and he makes fun of Boy Scouts.

a lot will boil down to who gets Pat Robertson's support.

[Not Me]

I agree with the DOJ on this one. The DOJ is entitled discovery on the basis for the Doctor's opinions which is in the medical records.

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGABA0J4BRD.html

Justice Dept. Wants Doctors Barred From Testifying Without Abortion Records

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Justice Department sought Monday to bar doctors from testifying in a lawsuit challenging the Partial-Birth Abortion Act unless the government gains access to their patients' medical records.

The Justice Department motion filed in U.S. District Court in New York also points out that the National Abortion Federation, a professional association of abortion providers, has argued previously that patient records are essential to determining a procedure's medical necessity.

"There can be no question but that the government is entitled to the records, redacted to protect the identity of particular patients, in its defense of the act," the court papers say.

If the five doctors bringing the New York case plan to testify that the procedure is medically necessary, the Justice Department says the patient records are needed to show their experiences and the circumstances of each case.

Otherwise, the government motion says, the doctors shouldn't be allowed to testify.

In a recent "resource guide" describing efforts in Congress to pass the new abortion law, the federation asserted that critics were not competent to judge the procedure's necessity because they hadn't reviewed any patient records, the court papers say.

The document seeks specifically to rebut a group formed by former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop called Physicians Ad Hoc Coalition for Truth, or PHACT, that opposed the procedure. Because Koop's organization had seen none of the patient records, the abortion federation document says, "These doctors cannot determine what medical options were most appropriate."

A spokeswoman for the National Abortion Federation had no immediate response.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Not Me
I agree with the DOJ on this one.

Provocative.

[Not Me]

Another left-wing conspiracy theory.

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/sto...MPLATE=DEFAULT

Administration Denies Forcing Aristide Out

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The White House and military and diplomatic officials on Monday denied allegations Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was kidnapped by U.S. forces eager for him to resign and be spirited into exile.

With U.S. military forces already on the ground in the Caribbean nation and more on the way, chief presidential spokesman Scott McClellan said, "It's nonsense, and conspiracy theories do nothing to help the Haitian people move forward to a better more free, more prosperous future."

An African-American activist, Randall Robinson, said Aristide told him on the phone Monday that he had been kidnapped at gunpoint by American soldiers and ousted in a U.S. coup d'etat. Aristide said he was being held prisoner at the Renaissance Palace in Bangui, Central African Republic, Robinson said.

Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., told CNN that when he spoke with Aristide on Monday morning, the exiled Haitian leader told him that the international community had let him down - "that he was kidnapped, that he resigned under pressure, that he was taken to a Central African country."

Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., told CNN she talked on the phone with Aristide's wife, Mildred, who said that Aristide was "forced to leave his home." Waters said an U.S. Embassy official told Aristide that he "had to go now - that if he didn't go he would be killed and a lot of Haitians would be killed."

Powell said flatly, "He was not kidnapped. We did not force him on the airplane. He went on the plane willingly."

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Provocative.

What would be the argument that the doctors should be allowed to testify but the DOJ would not get to review the medical records with the names redacted?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Not Me
Another left-wing conspiracy theory.

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/sto...MPLATE=DEFAULT

You might say "another african-american conspiracy theory," which at least finds some scanty textual support in the actual article.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
You might say "another african-american conspiracy theory," which at least finds some scanty textual support in the actual article.

Hmm. Given that Colin Powell identifies himself as African-American, I would say, no, that is not what the article supports.

Maxine Waters and Charlie Rangle are way left. Colin is a moderate and he denies the charges. All are black yet they have different opinions on this.

Not all blacks are liberals.

[Not Me]

http://news.findlaw.com/news/s/20040...tscaliadc.html

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Not Me
Hmm. Given that Colin Powell identifies himself as African-American, I would say, no, that is not what the article supports.

Maxine Waters and Charlie Rangle are way left. Colin is a moderate and he denies the charges. All are black yet they have different opinions on this.

Not all blacks are liberals.

Randall Robinson is also pretty far to the left, and African-American. Seems to me to be a man of integrity and principle -- and writes a good book.

Be that as it may -- all that means is that Aristide -- or someone they believe to be Aristide -- called them and spun the tale. That doesn't make the tale true. Aristide has always seemed a bit unstable to me, as charismatic "holy man" personas often are.

S_A_M

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Be that as it may -- all that means is that Aristide -- or someone they believe to be Aristide -- called them and spun the tale. That doesn't make the tale true. Aristide has always seemed a bit unstable to me, as charismatic "holy man" personas often are.

I saw that story and I thought, slow news day.