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Old 03-23-2004, 07:34 PM   #2626
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If you insist that your child and wife and girlfriend wear only highly non-sexy clothes while you feel no compunction about saying va-va-voom and drop things to get women in short skirts/loose-necked shirts to bend over and pick them up, yeah, you are more hypocritical than if you let them dress how they like
I would assume that that urge to protect them is because you have deep personal knowledge of how men react to women who have no clothes on.

I don't give a shit how permissive your dad or boyfriend or whoever was with you, they were oggling other women with no clothes on. That won't ever change. Asking someone you have a close personal relationship not to subject themselves to that doesn't seem like such a rant inducing problem to me.

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Old 03-23-2004, 07:37 PM   #2627
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You freaking pedophile. Why don't you just go home and end your miserable life already?
Fine.

Wait. No way!

Damn. You are powerful.

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Old 03-23-2004, 07:39 PM   #2628
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BITTER POINTLESS miserable life.
You know, you act like that post was insulting only to you. Did you ever once think about the offense Shape Shifter might take to the implication that reptiles are worthy of contempt? I bet you didn't. You are so insensitive.
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Old 03-23-2004, 07:39 PM   #2629
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I would assume that that urge to protect them is because you have deep personal knowledge of how men react to women who have no clothes on.

I don't give a shit how permissive your dad or boyfriend or whoever was with you, they were oggling other women with no clothes on. That won't ever change. Asking someone you have a close personal relationship not to subject themselves to that doesn't seem like such a rant inducing problem to me.

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I have the urge to say, "burka-imposer, whatever." It seems that the most lascivious guys are the first to keep their daughters from wearing makeup and any clothing that might display any secondary sexual characteristics. That is what bugs me. My bf finding other women attractive does not bug me. My dad finding other women attractive does not bug me. Them making a big public display of saying "whooo baby look at the knockers on that chick! I'd like to fuck her (but only if I'm a few miles away from whoever I'm committed to, hardehar, aren't I a card)!!" and then saying "Fringe, that sweater is too tight and your skirt is too short and no daughter/gf of mine goes out of the house looking like that" would cause me to dump the bf and despise the father.

ETA on the other hand, if the bf/father were to say, "OMG, given I am such a lech about other women, knowing what men think when they see you in that makes me uncomfortable" that would be less of an issue. Also, if the big public "whoo baby" displays were more than a once in a while thing and actually a constant thing and really the vast majority of the bf/dad reperetoire (I can't spell), I would probably dump the bf and despise the dad because no matter how much they say "i'm just kidding, har har" it's not believable. To me. And it's different than that kind of mesmerized staring at ass/tits that guys get in bars/parks in springtime, which I actually do find funny even if I am WITH with them.

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Old 03-23-2004, 07:40 PM   #2630
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Asking someone you have a close personal relationship not to subject themselves to that doesn't seem like such a rant inducing problem to me.

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It seems to me that there is an enormous difference between a father telling his daughter how to dress and a husband telling his wife how to dress. A husband telling his wife how to dress isn't trying to protect her. I think the father telling the daughter is protective, and so not hypocritical if he ogles women. A man who tells his wife how to dress and then ogles women - well I don't know what he is, but I wouldn't marry him.*

*note - I have nothing against ogling women. I ogle all good-looking people. I just wouldn't marry someone who would be the type of person to tell me how to dress.
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Old 03-23-2004, 07:43 PM   #2631
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It seems to me that there is an enormous difference between a father telling his daughter how to dress and a husband telling his wife how to dress. A husband telling his wife how to dress isn't trying to protect her. I think the father telling the daughter is protective, and so not hypocritical if he ogles women. A man who tells his wife how to dress and then ogles women - well I don't know what he is, but I wouldn't marry him.*

*note - I have nothing against ogling women. I ogle all good-looking people. I just wouldn't marry someone who would be the type of person to tell me how to dress.
what if he helpfully suggested that tube tops don't make very good skirts? still a problem?
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Old 03-23-2004, 07:50 PM   #2632
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what if he helpfully suggested that tube tops don't make very good skirts? still a problem?
If I were to lose my mind and wear such a look now, I would welcome fashion advice from my husband.
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Old 03-23-2004, 07:51 PM   #2633
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You know, you act like that post was insulting only to you. Did you ever once think about the offense Shape Shifter might take to the implication that reptiles are worthy of contempt?
That did occur to me. But I am still wallowing in the self-pity that has been my day so far. Just a little salt on the wounds, that's all.
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Old 03-23-2004, 07:51 PM   #2634
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You could always try what women have done for eons with their guys' favorite ugly clothes...."accidentally" include them with the bag going to the Salvation Army. Or try what men have been doing for eons when they hate certain items of their gals' clothing.....say it makes him look (choose whatever adjective will make him freak) frumpy, matronly, fat, etc.
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Old 03-23-2004, 07:51 PM   #2635
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I missed most of this, but it looks like boys versus girls. If I side with the girls, will they all like me? Or will the boys not pick me when we play sports after school?

By the way, I really do think pedophilia is bad. It's very, very bad.
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Old 03-23-2004, 07:52 PM   #2636
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*note - I just wouldn't marry someone who would be the type of person to tell me how to dress.
So, I take it that...

"Hey Baby - take off that thong and put on these black thigh highs and those lace-up three inch heels!!!"....

would be a deal-killer????
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Old 03-23-2004, 07:56 PM   #2637
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So, I take it that...

"Hey Baby - take off that thong and put on these black thigh highs and those lace-up three inch heels!!!"....

would be a deal-killer????
dammit.

hoisted on my own petard, or whatever that expression is.
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Old 03-23-2004, 08:12 PM   #2638
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I believe y'all are using "pedophilia" when you mean "ephebophilia." Let's be precise in our name-calling out there.
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Old 03-23-2004, 08:16 PM   #2639
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That did occur to me. But I am still wallowing in the self-pity that has been my day so far. Just a little salt on the wounds, that's all.
I took the part about being reptilian as sort of a little compliment among all the insults. Because I long to be you. Well, not you, because I couldn't have myself as Husband #1.

I think reptiles enjoy salt on the wounds. Orgasmic.

ETC(larify) that that's the alien kind of reptile, not a real reptile that finds the salt thing orgasmic, and that for SS I'd get a specially-designed vibrator that includes a salt shaker component so we could BOTH be happy.

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I believe y'all are using "pedophilia" when you mean "ephebophilia." Let's be precise in our name-calling out there.
Any Greek scholars around here? I think this should be ephebiphilia, rather than ephebophilia, but I didn't make it very far in Greek.

And I suspect fringie was charging true pedophilia. It wouldn't surprise me at all if fringie herself were an ephebiphiliac.
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