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[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

Do you find yourself compelled periodically to paint blue stripes on your face and scream "Freedom!!!"? To yell at Jews? Just curious.

He's Irish and not even Scots-Irish.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

He's Irish and not even Scots-Irish.

I guess it's better than having a Brit play Wallace.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

He's Irish and not even Scots-Irish.

"He" being Mel Gibson, or the character he played in the movie?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I guess it's better than having a Brit play Wallace.

I agree. I think it's terrible when Hollywood crosses ethnic lines like that. Getting a non-Scot to play a Scot? The horror. Next someone will stage a Shakesperian play with black people -- and in some role other than Othello.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

I agree. I think it's terrible when Hollywood crosses ethnic lines like that. Getting a non-Scot to play a Scot? The horror. Next someone will stage a Shakesperian play with black people -- and in some role other than Othello.

It's really just about the hair, not the ethnicity. The Irsh have lousy beards, the English even worse. The Scots now, they have beards.

They needed a Wallace with a good beard. This man could play Wallace:

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

"He" being Mel Gibson, or the character he played in the movie?

I missed the part of Braveheart where William Wallace was yelling at Jews. You have a timestamp handy?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

I missed the part of Braveheart where William Wallace was yelling at Jews. You have a timestamp handy?

Sidd thinks Mel Gibson is the quintessential Scot. He also thinks Marlon Brando is the quintessential Italian and that Jerry Lewis is the quintessential Frenchman.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

I missed the part of Braveheart where William Wallace was yelling at Jews. You have a timestamp handy?

So, I started the joke by asking if GGG felt compelled to paint himself blue and yell "Freedom!" That was a reference to Wallace, a character played by Mel Gibson. Then I added the part about yelling about Jews, which is something Gibson did.

True, one could point at that it's a flawed analogy, since the ethnicity of the character played and the actor playing him do not merge. But most people would recognize that I understood this and that this was merely part of the joke.

Nonetheless, I was impressed by your command of Mel's heredity. Good on ya', mate.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Sidd thinks Mel Gibson is the quintessential Scot. He also thinks Marlon Brando is the quintessential Italian and that Jerry Lewis is the quintessential Frenchman.

All true, but I'm torn as to whether Al Pacino is a better Italian, Cuban, or Puerto Rican.

OTOH, I'm guessing that to you (and maybe Cletus), the distinction between those 3 is about as meaningless as the distinction between flavors of the british isles are to me.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

So, I started the joke by asking if GGG felt compelled to paint himself blue and yell "Freedom!" That was a reference to Wallace, a character played by Mel Gibson. Then I added the part about yelling about Jews, which is something Gibson did.

True, one could point at that it's a flawed analogy, since the ethnicity of the character played and the actor playing him do not merge. But most people would recognize that I understood this and that this was merely part of the joke.

Nonetheless, I was impressed by your command of Mel's heredity. Good on ya', mate.

Typical. Trying to deny the Irish credit for their accomplishments.

Also, I rather doubt that the *real* William Wallace yelled "Freedom!" at anyone, that actually being something else that Mel Gibson did, too.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

All true, but I'm torn as to whether Al Pacino is a better Italian, Cuban, or Puerto Rican.

OTOH, I'm guessing that to you (and maybe Cletus), the distinction between those 3 is about as meaningless as the distinction between flavors of the british isles are to me.

My god, you think I can't tell the different between a nice Sangiovese and an Anejo or del Barralito?

Wonk was just being annoying. This, Sir, I find truly offending!

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

My god, you think I can't tell the different between a nice Sangiovese and an Anejo or del Barralito?

Wonk was just being annoying. This, Sir, I find truly offending!

I said no such thing. One's high regard for a nation's booze has no bearing on the level of one's regard for the people of that nation.

Nor should it. Viz., France.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

All true, but I'm torn as to whether Al Pacino is a better Italian, Cuban, or Puerto Rican.

OTOH, I'm guessing that to you (and maybe Cletus), the distinction between those 3 is about as meaningless as the distinction between flavors of the british isles are to me.

Italian, without a doubt. He's never again mastered the performance that was Michael Corleone in GFII.

And yes, I am whiffing, but the question piqued my interest for the minute or so it took to type out this post.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

So, I started the joke by asking if GGG felt compelled to paint himself blue and yell "Freedom!" That was a reference to Wallace, a character played by Mel Gibson. Then I added the part about yelling about Jews, which is something Gibson did.

Explanation accepted, but I'll note that the joke is factually wronger than most. IIRC Wallace is yelling "Freedom!" at the English troops of Edward I (Longshanks). Longshanks had previously issued a royal order expelling all Jews from England in 1290,* meaning that the population of Englishmen at whom Gibson was yelling in that movie was the least Jewish it had ever been and probably ever will be.

*Longshanks did this so he could seize the loans that England's Jewry had lawfully issued under England's usury laws, and taking possession of them from the departing Jews could be the most cynical circumvention of the usury laws (which would have forbidden Edward to issue interest-bearing loans in the first place) ever, and is evidence that the Crown really was a prick, but I don't recall the part where Wallace rallied the Scots by pointing out the enemy had been a real dick to his own countrymen, the Jews.

[Penske 2.0]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

There was a blizzard going on, man. Our drams were not wee.

2; although if Hank was there he would have dumbed down that curve. No offence.