Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by evenodds
What part of "don't condone" is confusing. I refuse to overlook the cheating.

I am incredibly polite to the adultress married to my friend. I was even incredibly polite to my father's girlfriend when we would encounter each other at events to which he did not take my mother.

That said, I refuse to invite them as my guests or to be anything other than polite strangers. That is the form of censure I choose.

W/r/t/ the Fugee "forgive & forget & still cut" thing - There is a vast difference between spiritual forgiveness and social forgiveness. One can forgive a thief his sins without wanting to mix socially with people who make a practice of theft. I see no conflict here. "I love you in Christ but will not introduce you to my friends and family" is a perfectly sensible middle ground.

W/r/t "minding your own business," yes, it is always very rude to notice of other people's sexual practices (most usually evidenced in commentary on people being "entitled" to wear white at their weddings). If those people impose that knowledge upon you through confession or demonstration, or if, through scandal, court papers etc. it becomes public knowledge, then reacting to that knowledge is not rudely sticking one's nose in.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I've read the Times religiously for 15 years. In the past decade the oped page has gone from being left leaning to unabashed partisan. Somebody please tell Paul "The World is Ending" Krugman to take a fucking xanax and go get a George Bush dartboard if he hates W so much. His rambling tirades at W - no matter that they are sometimes partly correct - gives new meaning to beating a dead horse.
We need a liberatarian popluist newspaper, but I guess that wouldn't sell well, since making reasoned articulate points is way above Middle America's head. Eh, whatever... another reason to board the mothership for Mars.

S(when does Hale Bop come around again?)D

Comet Hale Bopp is a very unusual type of comet with a very unusual orbit, and it has been found possible to discover what appear to be very clear traces of it throughout our distant past. Historical records suggest that it typically has taken about 3600 years to complete its orbit, though this interval has varied at different times.



You'll have to keep those Nikes for awhile. But please feel free to create a libertarian populist newspaper - you may have a larger audience than you think.

[ltl/fb]

Why are spammers who purport to be Christian singles' groups spamming me? Obviously they are not acquaintances.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Send a letter. Emails are ignored by networks. Letters represent like 1000 pissed off viewers in their minds.

TM

Actually, write personal letters to every company that you'd like to comp you. In college, I was in a marketing class where the prof required to us to write to a company that had "let us down" service-wise or product-wise in the past. Most people wrote to hotels, restaurants, etc. I think 2/3 of the class received some kind of comp from the company. Many received a night's stay in a hotel, or a gift certificate to the restaurant, etc.

The moral is: personal letters are effective*

*And will get you free shit.

(Vivid did NOT send me any free porno)

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by evenodds
What part of "don't condone" is confusing. I refuse to overlook the cheating.

I am incredibly polite to the adultress married to my friend. I was even incredibly polite to my father's girlfriend when we would encounter each other at events to which he did not take my mother.

That said, I refuse to invite them as my guests or to be anything other than polite strangers. That is the form of censure I choose.

I think we are in agreement. In fact, I think you just said the exact same thing I did. I thought you were saying we have a duty to let everyone who has done something socially abhorrent know that we know that they did said thing and that we think they should burn in hell for it.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Yes, we called it "F--k or die," but I prefer the version I've played: present two vile possibilities for banging with death as the out. It's a different dynamic when you introduce the comparative aspect, and it's often very telling when a person will explain why they chose one person over another. It's also fun to see who in your group is capable of the most evil pairings that almost always motivate the player to choose death.

First year, we had a game called "If all the male shareholders in the Litigation group were thrown into prison, who would be the first to get raped?" Personality traits that made some of the partners tools, like coming on as a tough guy were seen as potentially backfiring in prison. Chubby-cute was another factor that moved one of them to the top in my list.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I totally disagree. (1) You don't have a constitutional right to friendliness; (2) You do have a right to determine your acceptance others' private behavior, and (3) Refusing to be cordial is not a verbal assault.

It's fascinating to me that the side of the board that would be generally anti-hypocrisy and sees etiquette as essentially hypocritical in nature (that is, everyone but me and DS) is saying that one should fake a feeling of bonhomie that isn't felt --- why, because it's wrong to judge others?

1. Refusing to be cordial is the polite equivalent of a verbal assault.

2. Is it really that big of a deal to fake a smile and "Nice to see you?" We only do that, what, 10, 20 times every day of our lives?

3. Ettiquette is being a hypocrite, but we're all hypocrites. You're advocating behaving like Holden Caulfield, which you can bet your farm I'd fucking love to do every goddamn day. The problem with "letting people hav it" politely is that it'll come back and bite you in the ass... just like dicking opposing counsel on a extension or some other lowlife behavior.

S(suck it up... )D

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Why are spammers who purport to be Christian singles' groups spamming me? Obviously they are not acquaintances.

Every day, I get "Debt reduction the Christian way", "Enlarge your assets the Christian way" ("assets" because my firm's system blocks the word penis), "Christian Mortgages!" or something like that, and yes, Christian singles groups. It's the new hip spam (at least new to me).

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Actually, write personal letters to every company that you'd like to comp you. In college, I was in a marketing class where the prof required to us to write to a company that had "let us down" service-wise or product-wise in the past. Most people wrote to hotels, restaurants, etc. I think 2/3 of the class received some kind of comp from the company. Many received a night's stay in a hotel, or a gift certificate to the restaurant, etc.

The moral is: personal letters are effective*

*And will get you free shit.

(Vivid did NOT send me any free porno)

It is my understnading that the colored folks like to do this. but strangely,. not the Jewish people

and is it porn or porno?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
This is why I dont like posting in front of the partners (the squares who went straight to law school. Leagl, shouldnt the squares be required to have a password since they rarely have anything to contrib, but like to live vicariously through those of us who have lived?

I find it baffling that you take such offense to my Chariots of Fire post. It wasn't even intended to be insulting. For someone who has a history of being flameproof, you're awfully sensitive here. Why is that?

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Oh, I don't think Gattigap is indicting our way of life here... He's just having a laugh at our expense.

Precisely. Thanks.

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Not thinskinned. Just a reality check that there are two kinds of posters- those that post something that contributes to the community, and those who sit in the audience and heckle . I have decided not to be the entertainment anymore bc there are too many freeriders who arent returning the favor.

Well, if you wish to cast this as an epiphany of some sort, knock yourself out. I will note that this epiphany sounds a lot like earlier ones, though. I still vote thinskinned.

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I suspect that GA2GP was that nice but ultimately unattractive fellow who lived in the quiet dorm and probalby never got laid til he went to the local town bar, got liquored up in an attempt to keep up with whomever he was with, and then went home with the fat, townie woman who looks like the gal from Drew Carey.

Sad proof of the limitations of the Internet. Those on this board who know me will testify that I bear an uncanny resemblance to Michael J. Fox, down to the persistent cough.

Of course, they'll also testifty that when I'm drunk, the facade falls away and I look more like Drew Carey. So, half a point for you.

Gattigap

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
... just like dicking opposing counsel on a penis extension.

This is just rude.

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Has this been discussed here?

Apparently, our favorite career suicide practitioner who shall remain nameless (initials = PT), spent some time in a Mexico City jail recently after being arrested for shoplifting socks, of all things... And somehow managed to get in a Village Voice article about it.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0335/guthrie.php

(See about 2/3 of the way down)

So PT is a fugitive from Mexican justice? That looks good on the old resume... The CA bar might be interested as well...

Watch out for those socks, Penske. No good can come from them...

[bilmore]

Originally posted by evenodds
What part of "don't condone" is confusing. I refuse to overlook the cheating.

But . . . but . . . you're being incredibly JUDGMENTAL!! You can't do that! You can't have morals that differ from other peoples' morals! It's . . . it's . . . insulting, and . . . you might make some people think that if they do something bad, someone else might think badly of them! And that's just . . . so . . . uninclusive, or discriminatory, or something!

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Actually, write personal letters to every company that you'd like to comp you. In college, I was in a marketing class where the prof required to us to write to a company that had "let us down" service-wise or product-wise in the past. Most people wrote to hotels, restaurants, etc. I think 2/3 of the class received some kind of comp from the company. Many received a night's stay in a hotel, or a gift certificate to the restaurant, etc.

The moral is: personal letters are effective*

*And will get you free shit.

(Vivid did NOT send me any free porno)

I wrote a very moving and eloquent letter to the manufacturer of my car after a particularly disturbing incident at the car dealership that services it (under warranty, free oil changes, etc.) involving an incorrectly installed oil filter that slipped and resulted in the oil draining out of my car while I was driving it. They sent me a beautiful magazine full of optional crap with their logo on it and a $100 gift certificate with which to purchase said crap. I really would have preferred that they install a brand new engine in my car. I haven't decided yet whether I want the ball cap or the pen and pencil set.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
This isn't peculiar in a place where most people aren't white. It makes perfect sense. If most people are white where you are and you have black blood, you are black. If most people are black where you are and you have white blood why wouldn't you be considered white? I think this is the case in a number of places where white people don't make the rules.

TM

Yes, I know someone who has spent much of their life in South Africa. Simply can't understand what someone is saying when they talk about "minorities". It has led to surreal conversations. (Though note that part of this is because combining "oppressed" and "minority" is counterintuitive to him -- "privileged" seems to go better in his world).