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Hank Chinaski · 10-03-2005, 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
This just makes you sound jealous of their size, you whiny, adolescent wuss.

TM

The Detroit Lions are locked in a battle for top spot in the NFC North with the Bears- both teams are 1-2, but the Bears won the head to head game so, for now we are nipping at their heels.

It is possible several teams with winning records won't get the wild card and a 5-11 team will win the NFC North.

Shape Shifter · 10-03-2005, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The Detroit Lions are locked in a battle for top spot in the NFC North with the Bears- both teams are 1-2, but the Bears won the head to head game so, for now we are nipping at their heels.

It is possible several teams with winning records won't get the wild card and a 5-11 team will win the NFC North.

I sort of watched the StL/SF game played in Mexico City last night. The game sounded much more exciting when being called by the Spanish-speaking announcers. And, even though I don't speak Spanish, their analysis made much more sense to me than anything Joe Theisman said.

barely_legal · 10-03-2005, 12:53 PM

Anybody watching Threshold? I finally got around to watching the first 3 episodes this weekend. It's a total rip-off of X-files and about a dozen other sci-fi shows, but I like it anyway. Probably b/c I'll watch Brent Spiner in anything. Anyway, I recommend it.

Shape Shifter · 10-03-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by barely_legal
Probably b/c I'll watch Brent Spiner in anything.

Did you buy his CD? I hear he has quite a voice.

spookyfish · 10-03-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Sorry. Once we decided to start Moose in game one against the Angels, I knew we were going to lose that last game. They call Jaret, "Can't Get Wright."

Speaking of being sick, I bought those Chasers on Saturday in anticipation of being drunk. Here's what I learned (RT, I don't recall this being in your "Things RT Learned So I Don't Have To" file):

You can take as many Chasers as you want. But if you get so shit-faced that you throw up the entire contents of your stomach before you pass out, they don't do much good at all.

TM

Eh, what are you going to do? Going 1-6 the final week of the season isn't going to help your chances, you know. And it's hard to believe looking back that we had a chance at one time to trade Wright (and possibly Colon or some other combination of players, I don't remember exactly now) for Pedro Martinez back when he was with the Expos. Man, I would have done that in a heartbeat.

I'm having a hard time relating to the phrase "in the anticipation of being drunk," or at least it's been a long time since I've done that, but I'll note this for future reference, should the occasion ever arise.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 10-03-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I prefer the way they did it before the wildcard, though. If you are tied (Wildcard or Division Champs), you are tied and should play a one game playoff.

TM

Why is it unreasonable to have a playoff game for determining which team gets into the post season, but not bothering (and instead relying on tiebreakers) when both teams are in, and it's just a question of who gets which seed?

A playoff game between the Red Sox and Yankees today would be a fiasco. They would start some regulars, and probably bring in the reserves pretty quickly, especially if one team got to a decent lead.

ThurgreedMarshall · 10-03-2005, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Why is it unreasonable to have a playoff game for determining which team gets into the post season, but not bothering (and instead relying on tiebreakers) when both teams are in, and it's just a question of who gets which seed?

I just think they should be consistent. Either you have a better record than a team, when tied, based on h2h records or you don't. Why look at it differently based on whether both teams have a shot at making the playoffs?

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
A playoff game between the Red Sox and Yankees today would be a fiasco. They would start some regulars, and probably bring in the reserves pretty quickly, especially if one team got to a decent lead.

Isn't that exactly what would have happened if Cleveland, Boston and New York ended up with the same record?

TM

notcasesensitive · 10-03-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I sort of watched the StL/SF game played in Mexico City last night. The game sounded much more exciting when being called by the Spanish-speaking announcers. And, even though I don't speak Spanish, their analysis made much more sense to me than anything Joe Theisman said.

You clearly weren't watching very closely, as StL played the Giants and it was Arizona (sure, formerly StL) playing SF in Mexico City.

Always hepful.

I heart Mike Martz at the moment. Most excellent sucky-ass coach in the world. Third 40+ point game for the Giants this year. I think they might have most points scored in the NFL this year. How scary is that?

PS. Str8 only fucked up my SD to lose mojo. Season-standings loss, but I was already out of the main pool for that one.

Shape Shifter · 10-03-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
You clearly weren't watching very closely, as StL played the Giants and it was Arizona (sure, formerly StL) playing SF in Mexico City.

Always hepful.

I heart Mike Martz at the moment. Most excellent sucky-ass coach in the world. Third 40+ point game for the Giants this year. I think they might have most points scored in the NFL this year. How scary is that?

PS. Str8 only fucked up my SD to lose mojo. Season-standings loss, but I was already out of the main pool for that one.

Cardinal timmy.

barely_legal · 10-03-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Did you buy his CD? I hear he has quite a voice.

The key word was "watch." I wrote nothing about listening to him.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 10-03-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I just think they should be consistent. Either you have a better record than a team, when tied, based on h2h records or you don't. Why look at it differently based on whether both teams have a shot at making the playoffs?

Isn't that exactly what would have happened if Cleveland, Boston and New York ended up with the same record?

TM

There's a lot more to play for if it's a chance to be in the playoffs than simply to determine your opponent and whether you have home field advantage. Given the Yankees' effort yesterday, which mattered at least as far as their getting a higher seed, one can see why they don't bother with playoff games merely to determine seeding.

str8outavannuys · 10-03-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
By my unofficial count Arnie, you're about 3.2K in the hole.

You offering picks is like Fringey suggesting a salad

Cinci -9.5 (+6.5)
Indy -7 (+6.5)
San Diego +4 (+6.5)
Tampa -6.5 (+6.5)
Carolina -7.5 (+6.5)

I know we haven't got all the way home yet, but if you didn't get on this bet (which pays 5-1 odds, btw), then it's your loss.

I'm thrilled -- I had one three teamer (Cinci/Indy/SD), one four teamer (those three + TB), one five teamer (the five above), and one six teamer (a college game! Thank you Wisconsin!)

This has been a good weekend, which will be a great weekend if Carolina manages to beat the worst team in the NFL tonight. Hookers and blow for everyone.

SlaveNoMore · 10-03-2005, 03:00 PM

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Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
There's a lot more to play for if it's a chance to be in the playoffs than simply to determine your opponent and whether you have home field advantage.

In a 5 Game Series, I always though "Home Field advantage" was exactly the opposite.

spookyfish · 10-03-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I just think they should be consistent. Either you have a better record than a team, when tied, based on h2h records or you don't. Why look at it differently based on whether both teams have a shot at making the playoffs?

Isn't that exactly what would have happened if Cleveland, Boston and New York ended up with the same record?

TM

This is some crazy shit, but here is a link to some hepful rules on the subject.

http://www.all-baseball.com/ref/tie.html

From the site, here is the relevant info:

Major League Baseball Playoff Tiebreaker Info

1. When there is a tie for a Division Championship and the breaking of the tie will result in the losing team nonetheless being the Wild Card team, the Division Champion shall be:
a. the team with the better record in head-to-head competition. . .

2. When there is a tie for a Division Championship and the breaking of that tie will result in the losing team(s) not being the Wild Card team, the tie for the Division Championship shall be broken as follows:
a. Tie between two teams. The League President shall conduct a coin flip to determine the site of a playoff game between the two teams, the game to be played the day after the conclusion of the championship season. The winner of the game shall be declared the Division Champion.

Had all three teams tied with the same record, situation one would apply. The reason no game would be played in the event all three of these teams had tied is because the loser of the "Divisional Championship" would then had been one game behind Cleveland in the standings for the Wild Card. So, they settle the "Division Championship" which is meaningless (except for home field advantage) by the tie-breaker, and they allow Cleveland and Boston (had Cleveland won yesterday) to play one game for the Wild Card.

I think situation 2 would apply only in the case where New York or Boston had the same record atop their division, but the Wild Card team (from another division obviously) had a better record.

str8outavannuys · 10-03-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
I have no idea what any of this means, but red is redder than green.

In law school, my friends and I would often go to Tuesday night pub quiz and the local Irish pub. During and after the quiz, we would complain about the arbitrariness of certain questions. There were questions like "What is the most popular steak in the world?" Huh?

Anyways, I kept waiting for "what is the color of lead." This exchange reminded me of that.

Please resume making fun of my winning football picks.