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12-01-2006, 12:26 PM
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Perhaps, but you you just have to play the hand you're dealt.
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I don't mind this phrase. I tolerate thousands of sports/cards/other cliches every day. Probably at least a thousand each minute that I am at work. If I am on a conference call with more than three other lawyers, then the count jumps to several hundred per second. I am just tired of people saying "It is what it is" when they have nothing else to say. If you have nothing to say, then don't say anything.
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12-01-2006, 12:27 PM
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Yikes. Now I am really thinking.
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Whoa, me too. Not Bob is defined by what he is not. Therefore, he is what he is not. It's tripping me out, man.
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12-01-2006, 12:28 PM
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
I don't mind this phrase. I tolerate thousands of sports/cards/other cliches every day. Probably at least a thousand each minute that I am at work. If I am on a conference call with more than three other lawyers, then the count jumps to several hundred per second. I am just tired of people saying "It is what it is" when they have nothing else to say. If you have nothing to say, then don't say anything.
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Are you then objecting to misuse or overuse or both?
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12-01-2006, 12:28 PM
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xmas music
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Why can't someone just give me a straight fucking answer instead of all this "Here is why, or alternatively, here is why" bullshit?
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My local classic rawk station is still very similar to what it was when I was in high school. Lots of Zep (in fact, every day at some set time that I don't know about, they "get the Led out"), Pink Floyd, the occasional Doors binge, Freebird, etc. However, I have heard them play the Pretenders and U2. Which the local "alternative" station also play.
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12-01-2006, 12:31 PM
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
I don't mind this phrase. I tolerate thousands of sports/cards/other cliches every day. Probably at least a thousand each minute that I am at work. If I am on a conference call with more than three other lawyers, then the count jumps to several hundred per second. I am just tired of people saying "It is what it is" when they have nothing else to say. If you have nothing to say, then don't say anything.
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If nobody said anything when there was nothing to say, billables would go way down. At the end of the day, it is what it is is not necessarily suboptimal.
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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12-01-2006, 12:31 PM
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xmas music
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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
My local classic rawk station is still very similar to what it was when I was in high school. Lots of Zep (in fact, every day at some set time that I don't know about, they "get the Led out"), Pink Floyd, the occasional Doors binge, Freebird, etc. However, I have heard them play the Pretenders and U2. Which the local "alternative" station also play.
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my daughter likes to tell her friends that I shook Joey Ramone's hand. this was, you know, before what happened.
N.B. I was going to write "before what happened happened," but I was intimidated that someone would find that a meaningless phrase.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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12-01-2006, 12:32 PM
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Coltrane apologizes.* He thought that with all the physics** talk you do, you would understand.***
*He is sorry
**Physics is a science type thing
***Understand means you get it
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Paigow would hate this post.
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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12-01-2006, 12:32 PM
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#2663
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by patentparanyc
Are you then objecting to misuse or overuse or both?
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Did you even bother to read anything that I wrote? Even one word? I am not objecting to misuse because I do not think the phrase can be misused. I am just saying that the phrase itself means nothing. That is the basis of my objection.
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Inside every man lives the seed of a flower.
If he looks within he finds beauty and power.
I am not sorry.
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12-01-2006, 12:33 PM
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Whoa, me too. Not Bob is defined by what he is not. Therefore, he is what he is not. It's tripping me out, man.
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No, no, no. He is not what he is, not he is what he is not.
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12-01-2006, 12:34 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
"that's the way it's always been done" is not a cop out phrase. it is the basic secret to a sucessful legal career.
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That and a convincing way of saying, "I've seen this a hundred times." I had a boss that used to do that. She was such a liar.
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12-01-2006, 12:34 PM
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Well, it's normally used to describe something that the speaker believes is unchangeable. "It is what it is" means you can't do anything to change the circumstances. The problem is that the phrase is often used when you can change the circumstances, and the speaker is lazily using it as an excuse to ignore the potential changes.
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The problem is that now that everyone says it, it is no longer vaguely profound. Resigning oneself in a ostensibly philosophical manner now is thinking inside the box. As Spanky is my guide, something like this is the best response to the clods who say that.
(spree: sound)
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12-01-2006, 12:34 PM
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Did you even bother to read anything that I wrote? Even one word? I am not objecting to misuse because I do not think the phrase can be misused. I am just saying that the phrase itself means nothing. That is the basis of my objection.
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Why do you think she will understand if she reads?
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12-01-2006, 12:35 PM
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#2668
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Did you even bother to read anything that I wrote? Even one word? I am not objecting to misuse because I do not think the phrase can be misused. I am just saying that the phrase itself means nothing. That is the basis of my objection.
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Have you not read a thing I've written? The phrase does not mean nothing. It implies existence. Nothing is the absence of existence. The phrase might be a somewhat meaningless tautology, but it is not nothing.
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12-01-2006, 12:36 PM
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#2669
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xmas music
Quote:
Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
my daughter likes to tell her friends that I shook Joey Ramone's hand. this was, you know, before what happened.
N.B. I was going to write "before what happened happened," but I was intimidated that someone would find that a meaningless phrase.
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Joey Ramone bled on me.
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12-01-2006, 12:37 PM
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#2670
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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It is what it is
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Have you not read a thing I've written? The phrase does not mean nothing. It implies existence. Nothing is the absence of existence. The phrase might be a somewhat meaningless tautology, but it is not nothing.
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The ironic thing about him asking if she read his posts, is that she is probably one of the very few people who still do read his posts, or try to figure out what nonsense he might mean with them. he is truly biting one of the few hands that still feeds him. sad.
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