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Old 08-29-2007, 03:52 AM   #2671
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1. He, rightly or wrongly, pleaded guilty to a crime;

2. Roll Call, rightly, reported that a U.S. Senator pleaded guilty to a crime;

3. His past actions suggest he is a hypocrite;

4. If I was an Idaho voter, I would want to know this; and

5. I have no problem admitting that I take glee from watching a self-righteous hypocrite fall from grace in a humiliating, public fashion.
2. Er, 6.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:39 AM   #2672
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If he talked about helping the poor but in his private life gouges the poor (i.e. is a slum lord, overcharges them, etc.), then yes it would count.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:27 AM   #2673
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I believe it is within a state's power to ban publicly proposing sexual congress between consenting adults. In the high school halls, in the shopping malls. FEDERALISM!
I know you've been married a long time, and most of your proposals occur in the privacy of your quarters; AND I know you watch lots of porno, so you might think most new relationships start after a pizza/pool boy or Avon lady enters a private residence, but IRL most raltionships do start with a public suggestion of a possible liason.

When Quarterback Billy asks Sally the cheerleader to prom, right in front of her locker there in the hallway, you can't read between the lines?
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:43 AM   #2674
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I know you've been married a long time, and most of your proposals occur in the privacy of your quarters; AND I know you watch lots of porno, so you might think most new relationships start after a pizza/pool boy or Avon lady enters a private residence, but IRL most raltionships do start with a public suggestion of a possible liason.

When Quarterback Billy asks Sally the cheerleader to prom, right in front of her locker there in the hallway, you can't read between the lines?
I am more disturbed by your choice of running routes than I was three minutes ago.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:51 AM   #2675
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The other one is Section 609.746 and I think even more of a stretch.
Based on the police report, it seems that peering into a bathroom stall fits well within the elements of that offense. (see (c)(1)).
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:52 AM   #2676
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When Quarterback Billy asks Sally the cheerleader to prom, right in front of her locker there in the hallway, you can't read between the lines?
Is Billy planning to get a leg over right there in the hallway?
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:06 AM   #2678
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They'll watch Will & Grace with you, though.
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Based on the police report, it seems that peering into a bathroom stall fits well within the elements of that offense. (see (c)(1)).
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:26 PM   #2680
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I don't get why pleading guilty to a misdemeanor is resulting in the Senate Republicans calling for an ethics inquiry into the allegedy horny allegedly homosexual senator from Idaho.

Is it because it's a crime of moral turpitude, or whatever?
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:37 PM   #2681
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I don't get why pleading guilty to a misdemeanor is resulting in the Senate Republicans calling for an ethics inquiry into the allegedy horny allegedly homosexual senator from Idaho.

Is it because it's a crime of moral turpitude, or whatever?
Two possibilities:

Did he fail to comply with a Senate ethics rule requiring him to report the conviction?

He's said that he lied under oath, in essence, in pleading guilty.

Both of these seem like pretexts, though.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:54 PM   #2682
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I don't get why pleading guilty to a misdemeanor is resulting in the Senate Republicans calling for an ethics inquiry into the allegedy horny allegedly homosexual senator from Idaho.

Is it because it's a crime of moral turpitude, or whatever?
Romney turned on the guy faster than you can say "Hester Pryne".

I must say, Craig made himself into a bit of a joke, but I've got more respect for Hank's misguided defense of the guy at all cost than for the Republican leadership's stone-casting contest.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:16 PM   #2683
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Two possibilities:

Did he fail to comply with a Senate ethics rule requiring him to report the conviction?

He's said that he lied under oath, in essence, in pleading guilty.

Both of these seem like pretexts, though.
What else can they do besides call for an inquiry? Calling for an inquiry is the action that expresses the sentiment "we think you're a bad person and shouldn't be one of us", which in itself seems not to be sufficient for voters.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:32 PM   #2684
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What else can they do besides call for an inquiry? Calling for an inquiry is the action that expresses the sentiment "we think you're a bad person and shouldn't be one of us", which in itself seems not to be sufficient for voters.
It just seems like there is not much about which to inquire, other than details about his personal life. Which I guess at least makes them consistent.
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It just seems like there is not much about which to inquire, other than details about his personal life. Which I guess at least makes them consistent.
To be sure. The guilty plea means the facts are presumed established.

It really seems that the proper inquiry is whether he remains fit to serve in the senate. That determination is up to the senate and/or voters.
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