Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

taxwonk 4:39


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Originally posted by evenodds
As a matter of fact, I do suck and I enjoy it.


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Why don't you come over instead of RT? I'd much rather have you suck than have my Taxwonk pulled.

Replaced_texan 4:39


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On the surface, "Wonderland" might seem like a useful cautionary tale, a suggestion of what could happen to you if you use your giant penis to forge a career, eventually become washed-up and coked-out, hang out with drug dealers and assorted other ne'er-do-wells and betray your friends willy-nilly. For those of you out there headed in this direction, I urge you to stop right now.
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In other news, I'm bored and want to go home. Anyone else want to join in the break out?

Paigow 4:41


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Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand
For the record, I don't hate you.

I just think the whole "You're on my ignore list" and fighting flame wars with ghosts thing is tired and gets in the way of your otherwise often witty (and pithy) posts... Sometimes less is more, that's all.

You have as much chance as anybody at winning, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe a little more based on your body of work.
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I was doing you the courtesy of letting you kn ow who indeed you were IMing with. Its a little creepy to change your moniker and pretend your prior self didnt exist. Its all very Tourtist Trap.

I was not asking for a critique of my ouevre but thanks for playing

and i dont really do song lyrics so I dont know that I will have anything to ass. I think this contest will be between thurgreed, less and chevy. Ugh. THis is going to be like voting for either Jun or Alison.

Paigow 4:43




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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Lies, damn lies and whatever link you just posted. First, go ask any head coach in the league or better yet, anyone who knows anything about football who they would rather have, McNabb or Johnson and you'll probably eat that link without hotsauce. Put Keyshawn on the Eagles and watch McNabb's numbers soar.

And I can't believe you took this guy seriously after he said, "But McNabb has also been sacked more frequently than Johnson—more than once, on average, per game, which negates much of the rushing advantage." Excuse me? A sack counts for negative rushing yards. Therefore, this tremendous negative is incorporated into his rushing stats. Besides, I would argue that a high number of sacks is usually the fault of the offensive line and most likely the receivers who might not be capable of getting open. Either way, the comment is stupid.

Then he follows up with this: "So far, no black quarterback has been able to dominate a league in which the majority of the players are black. To pretend that many of us didn't want McNabb to be the best quarterback in the NFL because he's black is absurd."

This is fucking comical. I'm black and I don't give a shit if McNabb is considered the best quarterback in the league. Where does he get this crap? I want to see Vick dominate the league because he's exciting. He's like the next version of McNabb. And I like him because he's exciting not black.

Finally, the guy is an Eagles fan which puts him, at best, in the irrational camp. Try these quotes on for size from people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about :

'Dallas Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said Limbaugh's opinion doesn't "represent how the majority -- the high majority" of people involved in the game for a long time think. "I know it doesn't represent anything near what I think," he said.'

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'Washington Redskins coach Steve Spurrier was far from agreeing with the overrated part of Limbaugh's opinion. "They didn't give him all that money because he's an average quarterback," Spurrier said. "He's one of the best in the league."'

I can smell you're comeback already: "Well, these two coaches must be cowed by the media." Right.

You know, if all it took was pure stats to be one of the best, you would be screaming that we should have traded Jeter and signed Rodriguez or Garciaparra already. McNabb is an elite quarterback. You know it. I know it. The media know it. Limbaugh knows it. You're just throwing a fit because someone got in trouble for saying something about race and you're all upset over the PCing of the world.

And of course you're not the only one saying it. That's to be fully expected. But surely that doesn't mean you're right. If Andy Reid was black and Donovan McNabb was white, best believe Limbaugh would be spouting the same crap about Reid not winning the big game, being overrated, not belonging in the head coach fraternity because he was a black hire, etc. And you'd be citing articles backing him up. But I don't see anyone saying, "Reid doesn't use McNabb correctly. It's time for him to step down in favor of a black head coach who understands how to use an athletic quarterback and with whom he would have a better rapport." But this isn't the year 3003, so I guess I'll wait for that.

That argument is just plain dumb. You can't equate longevity with greatness. Your analogy doesn't apply.

You sound like a jackass because requiring teams to interview black coaches has nothing to do with the media's perception when it comes to McNabb. You see race, so automatically you bring it up. Next you'll say, that it's the same problem because the NFL is trying to appease the press and the Jesse Jacksons of the world by (1) pushing black coaches on owners and (2) pushing black quarterbacks on fans. But as far as I can see, the owners are still free to hire whoever they want (and they do) and the NFL and the media spend more time pushing Joey Harrington (the virtuoso, clean-cut, all-American white boy next door) down my throat than most other quarterbacks (Vick excluded).


So you get familiar with the motions. So you expose yourself to intelligent black coaches who answer your questions better than the guy you've already set your mind on. So you can see what kind of run defense he's planning on instituting so you can say to yourself, "That would work, how come no one else thought of that?" So the next time you're looking for someone your mind will be a little more open. It's not all a media-PC-fix on the NFL's part. I actually think it's a good idea.

Great. I'm sure the (what is it...2?) black managers (out of 30) agree with you.

That would make him an idiotic hire.

TM
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I present you with the THurgreed Award for longest, windiest reply in a debate that hit dead horse territory about six hours ago.

Shape Shifter 4:43



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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
From Salon:
On the surface, "Wonderland" might seem like a useful cautionary tale, a suggestion of what could happen to you if you use your giant penis to forge a career, eventually become washed-up and coked-out, hang out with drug dealers and assorted other ne'er-do-wells and betray your friends willy-nilly. For those of you out there headed in this direction, I urge you to stop right now.

In other news, I'm bored and want to go home. Anyone else want to join in the break out?
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My giant penis and I are busy right now. Thanks, though.

Penske 4:46


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Originally posted by paigowprincess
I think this contest will be between thurgreed, less and chevy. Ugh.
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Or several of my socks. Double ugh.


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taxwonk 4:46


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Originally posted by paigowprincess
are the four questions

1) would you like a drink
2) would you like another drink and a shot?
3) would you like another drink and another shot?
4) will you give me a blowjob?
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That's it. Next year, I'm coming to your seder.

ncs 4:46


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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
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In other news, I'm bored and want to go home. Anyone else want to join in the break out?
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I would but then I'm afraid that you would be headed down the path of the ne'er do wellers. So for your sake I will stay here and toil away. Or at least I'll pretend to.

Thurgreed 5:06


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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Now, TM, having offered your thoughts on Rush, what about your thoughts on Isaiah Thomas?
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Great basketball player, otherwise never liked the guy. Did you want me to comment on something specific?

TM

taxwonk 5:07


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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
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In other news, I'm bored and want to go home. Anyone else want to join in the break out?
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I'm on my way as soon as I power down the beast. Have a weekend all y'all.

lookingformarket 5:08


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Originally posted by LessinSF
Yet, as a shiksa, you missed part of the joke too. It has something to do the 4 questions asked during Passover, but being only 1/2 a Member of the Tribe (my lower half), I only got part of it too. We may have to wait for LFM to chime in to fully understand his Billmore of the Year.
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I'm not fully caught up, but it was an allusion to "How is this night different from all other nights?"

Tyrone 5:09


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Originally posted by NotFromHere
And can I just say for the record - the Red Sox suck. What the hell is wrong with you people? Can't swing a bat?
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Tim Hudson and Barry Zito are not exactly chopped liver. Good pitching beats good hitting.

Twenty-five years to the day after Bucky Fucking Dent, the Red Sox manage to lose two play-off games in the same day . . . .

Thurgreed 5:14


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http://www.freep.com/sports/lions/matt26_20030726.htm (Detroit Free Press article about the fine. "The fine, levied by NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue, was directed at Millen alone. The team was not fined and will not lose draft choices as the result of its failure to comply with the NFL's initiative on minority hiring.")

Jerry Jones had no intention of hiring anyone but Bill Parcells during the off season, but he got around the fine by having a courtesy interview with Dennis Green. Green seemed to be on the token interview circuit last year, because the Jaguars also talked to him before hiring their new (white) head coach whose name escapes me.

Frankly, if I were the NFL I'd be more pissed off at the 49ers who strung along Ted Cotrell and Greg Blanche (who, along with Jim Mora, interviewed twice) for awhile before turning around and hiring out Dennis Erickson from the oh-so-successful Seahawks. Erickson said he had no idea he was running for the job four days before he got it.
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Good points, all. But I bet the team picked up the tab on the fine.

I would hire Parcells over Green too. But if I were Green, I'd at least like to be heard out. Hell, that's all you can ask, right?

TM

BRC 5:16


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Originally posted by Dualit
If you were a guy and I was unattached, I'm sure I would be in love with you.
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I'm a gay man trapped in a woman's body, baby.

AngryMulletMan 5:17


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Originally posted by taxwonk
I'm on my way as soon as I power down the beast. Have a weekend all y'all.
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Don't do it, Wonk. Your beast needs a weekend, too.
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