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Old 07-22-2004, 02:06 PM   #256
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You racist fucker!:bang: :die: :uzi2: :td:
"folks like you" = Seattle metrosexuals

Who knew you were all so touchy? Try some different overpriced skin care products.
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Who knew you were all so touchy? Try some different overpriced skin care products.
Are you questioning my boyishly youthful good looks!?!!?? You age-ist mutherfucker!:dance2:
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Old 07-22-2004, 02:38 PM   #258
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Are you questioning my boyishly youthful good looks!?!!?? You age-ist mutherfucker!:dance2:
Both of y'all have kids, so you are both aging motherfuckers.
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Old 07-22-2004, 02:56 PM   #259
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Both of y'all have kids, so you are both aging motherfuckers.
I am horribly, horribly old, but Bill Cosby's got Penske's back:

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Old 07-22-2004, 03:32 PM   #260
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As if Michael Moore didn't have enough problems already . . .

. . . Bob Eubanks still wants to kick his ass, 15 years later.
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Old 07-22-2004, 03:37 PM   #261
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I am horribly, horribly old, but Bill Cosby's got Penske's back:

Playing the race card on me, eh?!? Sad, really sad.
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Old 07-22-2004, 03:38 PM   #262
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As if Michael Moore didn't have enough problems already . . .

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. . . Bob Eubanks still wants to kick his ass, 15 years later.
FWIW, some of his best friends are Jewish.
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Old 07-22-2004, 03:41 PM   #263
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As if Michael Moore didn't have enough problems already . . .

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. . . Bob Eubanks still wants to kick his ass, 15 years later.
A men's room?
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Old 07-22-2004, 04:26 PM   #264
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What is happening between Israel and the Palestinians isn't a war. If it were, Israel's military should be embarrassed for not having won it already.
You missed my point on this entirely.

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No, Israel's problem is that the frustration of the Palestinians who don't strap bombs to their kids is equal to the ones who do, and the international community feels sympathy toward them as the victims of an ugly mess that was created by the vestiges of colonial power in the Middle East. Nor is it Israel's fault for having been created in the first place. Nations occupy space.

If there were any nation in the world capable of occupying, say, New Mexico and evicting its residents under the banner of international accords, you would probably feel differently about it.
That's funny. The international community didn't feel all that sympathetic when Jordon kicked out Araphat and the other Palis. But then, Jordon is not a Jewish state.
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As if Michael Moore didn't have enough problems already . . .

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Old 07-22-2004, 04:49 PM   #266
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Bergergate?

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The government source said the Archives employees were deferential toward Berger, given his prominence, but were worried when he returned to view more documents on Oct. 2. They devised a coding system and marked the documents they knew Berger was interested in canvassing, and watched him carefully. They knew he was interested in all the versions of the millennium review, some of which bore handwritten notes from Clinton-era officials who had reviewed them. At one point an Archives employee even handed Berger a coded draft and asked whether he was sure he had seen it.
At the end of the day, Archives employees determined that that draft and all four or five other versions of the millennium memo had disappeared from the files, this source said.
I want to know the content of the files before forming an opinion, but the initial "mistake" excuse just doesn't fly.
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Old 07-22-2004, 05:22 PM   #267
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You missed my point on this entirely.
I don't think I did. You justified the retention of occupied territories on the basis that it's traditional for "war" victors to do so --- a proposition with which I'm not sure I agree, at least as far as the 20th century was concerned. After all, we conquered the Nazis, then gave Germany to the Germans --- sorta. I still say war conquest is a bad analogy for what happens to Israel's borders. Besides, conquest is not always accompanied by the lynchpin of international recognition of the new borders. See Iraq/Kuwait, 1991. The world is filled with disputed territorial claims, some of which go back to centuries-old conquests. If nobody recognizes your border as your border, it's not legitimate. Of course, if the U.S. alone recognizes it, it might be a different matter, but that's not a principled distinction.
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Old 07-22-2004, 05:47 PM   #268
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I want to know the content of the files before forming an opinion, but the initial "mistake" excuse just doesn't fly.
I find it extremely peculiar that Lanny Breuer has been dealing with DOJ on this matter for nine months, and -- if you read the interview with him on CNN from two nights ago -- seemed to think he knew what the allegations against his client were, and yet it wasn't this "five drafts" stuff. If I were in Breuer's shoes, I would be pretty irritated to be finding out about these allegations from unnamed sources in the press.

Nor does it make any sense to me. The articles suggest he was dealing with copies, not originals.* It's not like he's going to remove all copies from the government archives.

But maybe the allegations are all correct. Who knows.

* eta: Maybe I'm wrong about this.

eata: Since you don't think this was a "mistake," what's the motive?
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Old 07-22-2004, 05:58 PM   #269
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As if Michael Moore didn't have enough problems already . . .

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I think Bob would use the term "making Whoopee".
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Old 07-22-2004, 06:03 PM   #270
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The articles suggest he was dealing with copies, not originals.* It's not like he's going to remove all copies from the government archives.
Pretty sure the government archives actually contain the originals. I don't believe the reading room uses copies of the originals. Of course there may be multiple original copies of each document, since they were distributed, and perhaps he was trying to stuff them all in his pants.
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