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Old 12-09-2004, 06:17 PM   #256
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Take it to the "Lawyers with Brats" Board already.
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:20 PM   #257
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Too harsh. A couple days without the Humvee, maybe . . .
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Take it to the "Lawyers with Brats" Board already.
I don't want that place cluttered up until I get more ideas for gifts for the kids on my list.
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:26 PM   #259
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Ya know, he actually wasn't on smack. Daughter may not have had the expectation of privacy, for various reasons, but bf certainly did, at least by normal standards.
Daughter also has reasonable expectation of privacy.

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The court ruled that the daughter and her boyfriend had a reasonable expectation of privacy on the phone. Washington state law prohibits intercepting or recording conversations without the consent of all participants.
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Too harsh. A couple days without the Humvee, maybe . . .
In other news, Mike Tice is being considered for the Husky coaching job (sorry Fringey - I just had to).
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:28 PM   #261
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Take it to the "Lawyers with Brats" Board already.
Great. Now I'm hungry. Fucker.

(on the upside, now I've got a great name for the next Podunkville Bar Association tailgate party)
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:34 PM   #262
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Either that or kids in Oregon are going to have to memorize and recite a notice of privacy practices every time they pick up the phone.
I'd be that's more likely. You use my phone, you play by my rules!

BR(grew up knowing I had no reasonable expectation of privacy from my parents of any kind in any place. No closed doors, no private conversations, no private correspondence, no property rights assertable against other members of household. Thank god my parents didn't figure out what redeye and cravings implied until I was out of the house or I'd have gone mad. The descriptions of my youth horrify the Mr., who grew up with parents who never asked him anything about school, his friends, etc. because it was intrusive.)C
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:37 PM   #263
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Daughter also has reasonable expectation of privacy.
Against her mother? I always thought that 4th amendment or whatever the fuck it is mumbo jumbo applied to governmental action. Since the daughter wasn't on trial and the issue wasn't whether the information could be used against her, she didn't.

Why don't you call your mom and hash this out with her?
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:38 PM   #264
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Against her mother? I always thought that 4th amendment or whatever the fuck it is mumbo jumbo applied to governmental action. Since the daughter wasn't on trial (or was she an accessory?), I don't think she did, at least not in the legal sense.
Uh, I think this was based on a state law. But, whatever.
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:40 PM   #265
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Against her mother? I always thought that 4th amendment or whatever the fuck it is mumbo jumbo applied to governmental action. Since the daughter wasn't on trial and the issue wasn't whether the information could be used against her, she didn't.

Why don't you call your mom and hash this out with her?
I suspect there's a state wiretapping law involved. Funny that it should apply to overheard conversations, though. And funny that it applies between parents and minors, considering that parents can be held financially responsible for many of their kids' acts.

eta: uh, what fringey said.
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Uh, I think this was based on a state law. But, whatever.
Okay, law timmy! I realize there is a wiretapping/eavesdropping whatever got Linda Tripp in trouble type of law here, and that the issue was whether the information could be used against the bf at trial. But the R.E.P. concept used here is similar to the 4th amendment one, is it not? My point is that it seems inappropriate to say that there's the minor child has a REP at home as against her mother.
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:42 PM   #267
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I suspect there's a state wiretapping law involved. Funny that it should apply to overheard conversations, though.
It applies to the rights of the BF in his crim trial. If daughter were simply overheard by mom in her own home while talking on the phone, well, different story.
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:43 PM   #268
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Okay, law timmy! I realize there is a wiretapping/eavesdropping whatever got Linda Tripp in trouble type of law here, and that the issue was whether the information could be used against the bf at trial. But the R.E.P. concept used here is similar to the 4th amendment one, is it not?
OH MY GOD. You are a much bigger law timmy than I am, if you are relying on the phrasing of a paraphrase of an opinion to make this a federal constitutional issue.

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Against her mother? I always thought that 4th amendment or whatever the fuck it is mumbo jumbo applied to governmental action. Since the daughter wasn't on trial and the issue wasn't whether the information could be used against her, she didn't.

Why don't you call your mom and hash this out with her?
First of all, my mom has gone to the great beyond. There are no phones.

Second, it was not my mom who snooped in my sock drawer and found the stash, it was my friend's mom who found her stash (she is not as clever as I) and then grounded her right before the Stones concert that we had stood in line all day for tickets. It totally sucked.
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First of all, my mom has gone to the great beyond. There are no phones.

Second, it was not my mom who snooped in my sock drawer and found the stash, it was my friend's mom who found her stash (she is not as clever as I) and then grounded her right before the Stones concert that we had stood in line all day for tickets. It totally sucked.
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