Missing the Paigow (et al.) [sniff] - Page 182

baltassoc · 01-03-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
My office furniture isn't bad at all.

What about at your next place?

ThurgreedMarshall · 01-03-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Anyhow, my question is this: Do you all think that winning the Heisman trophy is an indicator of greatness in the NFL?

No. You're right, though. It is a better indicator for backs than for quarterbacks.

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(Bonus question: Woodson still a better pick than Manning?)

How is this a question? Maybe I don't get it.

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So should we hold on to our hard-earned draft choice (assuming he decides to go to the NFL this year instead of running back to USC now that he knows he's likely to end up in Houston), or are we better off shopping the pick around?

If he's ready to play for Houston, you should pick him, no question. If it looks like he might pull an Eli or Elway, trade him like he's Herschel Walker.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall · 01-03-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Bwaaaack-a-bwack-a-bwack. I bet you don't even make all those bets you claim to make. You probably don't really have a desk, either.

Ooooooooh schnap! You gonna let SS punk you like this in front of everyone? Daaaaaaaamn. He's callin' you out, son. You gonna front? You gonna back down? You isn't c-h-i-c-k-e-n? Is you?

TM

eta: Damn. At least wait til I get a chance to instigate.

Gattigap · 01-03-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Ooooooooh schnap! You gonna let SS punk you like this in front of everyone? Daaaaaaaamn. He's callin' you out, son. You gonna front? You gonna back down? You isn't c-h-i-c-k-e-n? Is you?

TM

I miss PLF. <*sniff*>

ThurgreedMarshall · 01-03-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
You pull him out of a list that includes Gino Torretta, Charlie Ward, Rashaan Salaam, Danny Wuerffel, Chris Weinke, Eric Crouch, and Jason White?

I must admit that I thought Salaam was going to be damn good.

Can you believe Clarett? Couldn't make the team. Busted for robbery less than a year later. Damn.

TM

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone · 01-03-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I must admit that I thought Salaam was going to be damn good.

Can you believe Clarett? Couldn't make the team. Busted for robbery less than a year later. Damn.

TM

Stay in school, kids, or you too will end up jacking cell phones at gunpoint behind some bar.

Not Bob · 01-03-2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I must admit that I thought Salaam was going to be damn good.

Didn't he blow out his knee as a rookie?

If I'm Houston, I take Bush. I'd start the day after the game. Since GHWB is a Houstonian, I put him (I send Babs out of the country while Poppy is working this deal) in charge of wooing Reggie, selling him on the "Bush Dynasty" or some such crap. Solicit his thoughts on who he thinks the new coach should be. Nod knowingly as he explains how Pete Carroll is the guy. Show him around town, throw some money at him, get him hookers and blow, dates with RT's sister -- whatever it takes, I make him want to be in Houston.

At the same time, I also look for an offensive line.

Replaced_Texan · 01-03-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
How is this a question? Maybe I don't get it.

TM

Charles Woodson beat out Payton Manning for the Heisman in 1997. I was wondering, with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, if he was still the better choice for that year as the top NFL prospect.

str8outavannuys · 01-03-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Didn't he blow out his knee as a rookie?

If I'm Houston, I take Bush. I'd start the day after the game. Since GHWB is a Houstonian, I put him (I send Babs out of the country while Poppy is working this deal) in charge of wooing Reggie, selling him on the "Bush Dynasty" or some such crap. Solicit his thoughts on who he thinks the new coach should be. Nod knowingly as he explains how Pete Carroll is the guy. Show him around town, throw some money at him, get him hookers and blow, dates with RT's sister -- whatever it takes, I make him want to be in Houston.

At the same time, I also look for an offensive line.

Just give him some of that syrup all y'all are famous for.
Sorry, sizzurp. My bad.

Str(Screwed and Chopped)8

ThurgreedMarshall · 01-03-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Didn't he blow out his knee as a rookie?

So did Willis McGahee.

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Originally posted by Not Bob If I'm Houston, I take Bush. I'd start the day after the game. Since GHWB is a Houstonian, I put him (I send Babs out of the country while Poppy is working this deal) in charge of wooing Reggie, selling him on the "Bush Dynasty" or some such crap.

Isn't Reggie black? Because I bet he assumes the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall · 01-03-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Charles Woodson beat out Payton Manning for the Heisman in 1997. I was wondering, with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, if he was still the better choice for that year as the top NFL prospect.

He won the Heisman, but I don't think anyone ever considered him, at any time in his career, a better NFL prospect.

TM

str8outavannuys · 01-03-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
He won the Heisman, but I don't think anyone ever considered him, at any time in his career, a better NFL prospect.

TM

Yeah, the Heisman has never been, nor has it ever pretended to be, an award for the college football player with the most potential to excel in the League. It's intended to recognize the outstanding Division 1-A(??) collegiate football player.

Nobody ever pretended that Eric Crouch would be a legit pro, at any time during his college career. Certainly not at QB, anyhow. But he still got enough votes to win the Heisman. Same goes for Detmer and many many others.

Charles Woodson was a great choice for Heisman and might wind up in the NFL Hall of Fame, so lay off of Woodson.

ThurgreedMarshall · 01-03-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Yeah, the Heisman has never been, nor has it ever pretended to be, an award for the college football player with the most potential to excel in the League. It's intended to recognize the outstanding Division 1-A(??) collegiate football player.

Nobody ever pretended that Eric Crouch would be a legit pro, at any time during his college career. Certainly not at QB, anyhow. But he still got enough votes to win the Heisman. Same goes for Detmer and many many others.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

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Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Charles Woodson was a great choice for Heisman and might wind up in the NFL Hall of Fame, so lay off of Woodson.

Lay off? Are you implying that at some point -- any point -- you thought he would be a better pro than Peyton?

Didn't think so.

TM

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone · 01-03-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Lay off? Are you implying that at some point -- any point -- you thought he would be a better pro than Peyton?

Didn't think so.

TM

You know, Billups has turned into a pretty solid pro...

str8outavannuys · 01-03-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Lay off? Are you implying that at some point -- any point -- you thought he would be a better pro than Peyton?

Didn't think so.

TM

I thought RT was ripping Woodson for being a bust Heisman, a la Ty Detmer. No, I never thought Woodson would be better than Manning. I didn't think he'd be better than Ryan Leaf, either. Though it's tough to compare CBs to QBs.