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08-31-2007, 04:46 PM
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#2731
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Moderator
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
issue spotter: how many inaccuracies can you list from these sentences?
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Oh, please, explain, Hank. Lawyer it up.
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08-31-2007, 05:41 PM
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#2732
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
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Quote:
Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Oh, please, explain, Hank. Lawyer it up.
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issue spotter: how many grammar errors can you list from these sentences?
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08-31-2007, 05:58 PM
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#2733
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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sebastian_dangerfield
The public is not "to the left." The public is disgusted and wants a quick easy solution. But remove all the troops, watch Iran and Russia drive oil prices through the ceiling and the country will turn "to the right" very quickly. You see a moral issue. The American voter is selfish, economically fixated and impatient. Right now the war looks like an expensive loss. If we had taken over the oil spigots and gas prices dropped, people would not complain. The country isn't Left or Right, unless you believe the news or the internet.
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08-31-2007, 07:06 PM
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#2734
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Actually, I think Saddam was very good for the Mddle East. He was stable and secular and wasn't treading toward extremism, though there were some hints he was embracing Islam for political purposes. He was buyable. It's too bad we married ourselves to the Saudis so long ago. Looking back, the better move, given Iraq's oil reserves, would have been to let him have Kuwait and prop him into something approaching a real country. He could have been brought under control, and made to obey human rights to a certain degree with enough cash.
We're working with all his old Sunni henchmen now to fight Shiite zealots. WTF? Why are we there again? Who were we deposing? Did we go there to get the oil we already had? Saddam's crude was cheap. The Saudis gouge us.
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How does our occupation -- and Iraq's current poor oil production -- keep oil prices down?
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09-01-2007, 02:55 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
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I heart the onion.
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09-01-2007, 12:41 PM
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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Sweet Justice
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09-01-2007, 01:21 PM
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#2737
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Wearing the cranky pants
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pulling your finger
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Sweet Justice
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09-01-2007, 08:09 PM
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
Posts: 6,793
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Our presence not only "fans the flames," it keeps the rival factions from having to reconcile.
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Kind of like our lack of presense in Cambodia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Rwanda and Darfur helped the rival factions reconcile. |
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09-01-2007, 08:10 PM
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#2739
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
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Sweet Justice
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
Nifong sent to jail.
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09-01-2007, 09:48 PM
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#2740
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
Kind of like our lack of presense in Cambodia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Rwanda and Darfur helped the rival factions reconcile.
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Save Bosnia, and setting aside the bombing of Cambodia since it didn't involve boots on the ground, we had a military presence in none of those countries. If you think Bosnia is an instructive example for the occupation of Iraq, please explain.
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09-02-2007, 11:27 AM
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#2741
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: In Spheres, Scissoring Heather Locklear
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Save Bosnia...we had a military presence in none of those countries.
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I think that's his point.
Oh and not to get drawn into this tired old discussion about Iraq being "stable" before we went in, I think that's bullshit and hereby incorporate by reference all my previous posts on the topic and anything Slave or Hank might care to say on the topic. Or anyone who survived going feet first through a wood chipper or surviving members of the decade old sanctions that kept folks starving and dead but "stable."
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09-02-2007, 04:19 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 10,117
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So the Dems have money scandals and the GOP has sex scandals. 9/11 really DID change everything.
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09-02-2007, 05:25 PM
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#2743
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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Wow!
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09-02-2007, 08:15 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 10,117
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Wow!
Unwise to post "nuclear" and "buy" on the Internet. |
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09-02-2007, 08:42 PM
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Classified
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: You Never Know . . .
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Wow!
If this happens, I think it is a great result given the box we're in with them.
That said, I think it shows NK was largely successful with its policy. We could not longer afford NOT to buy them off.
S_A_M
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