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Old 04-18-2003, 06:00 PM   #2731
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That's the nicest thing anybody's said to me all day. I do not actually own a housecoat. No shattering here.

Poor Sabrina Lloyd; first dumped by Jeremy (but at least it was for a hottie, if I remember correctly), then dumped by Ed (for an increasingly haggard looking Carol). Oh, the humanity!

She needs a better agent, hairdresser, and personal shopper.

Edited to add - I do not watch Ed and did not watch it last Friday. I read that he dumped her in the Washington Post, which also described the Ed and Carol finally get together ep as the "jump the shark episode."

And now allow me to make a shameless plug for a friend, although I do believe this has been discussed on the FB before.

http://www.jumptheshark.com/
www.jumptheshark.com jumped the shark in about May 2000.
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Old 04-18-2003, 06:02 PM   #2732
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. . . .Believe it or not, I am fairly moderate in most of my consumption. . . . I know enough to not knock up every chick I date
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Yeah, as long as you knock up only a few of 'em, in moderation, you'll be cool.
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Old 04-18-2003, 06:03 PM   #2733
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www.jumptheshark.com jumped the shark in about May 2000.
Saying that the site jumped the shark itself jumped the shark several months ago. I believe it was October 21 at about 4:53 p.m., Pacific time.
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Old 04-18-2003, 06:05 PM   #2734
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A Slate writer did something similar and concluded that, although the food was better than expected: "Casual dining restaurants serve a very specific function in American dining. In general, you don't take a date to one, unless you are on the way to the prom."
If you are on a budget, Olive Garden has an all-you-can-eat soup, salad and breadstick lunch for five dollars and change. Not every meal has to be gourmet. It's fast, too, so you can get right back to billing.
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Old 04-18-2003, 06:06 PM   #2735
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If you look again, it's supposed to be one normal meal, and then eat twice more, so long as the two 'meals' don't equal one full meal. When I used to fast, that would mean a banana for breakfast, a piece of toast and an apple for lunch, and then dinner (fish, natch) with my family. They allow the two snacks to make sure people aren't collapsing left and right. They don't want to lose good Catholics (need to maintain the ranks, after all), just want them to suffer a bit.

C(You eat less than that each day? )deuced
Not always, but right now, yes. I always thought that fasting connoted liquids only (do other religions that fast have different rules?). I would not consider that diet to be a hardship (unless maybe it was over a several day span, but for 1 day, no way). Lately I have been limiting myself to a full meal at lunch (not high in fat though) and a small dinner-time meal (e.g. english muffin with peanut butter or a Subway 6" sub or a salad). I am trying to cut my calories to around 1700-1800 at the moment because of the ever-looming swimsuit season (hey, I live in Dallas - lots of pressure to look good here).

Usually (when I am not within a month of a trip to Miami with skinny girlfriends) I eat two full meals - lunch and dinner. I don't snack.

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Old 04-18-2003, 06:07 PM   #2736
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Ethical question of the day: If your boyfriend is out of town, is it cheating to have intercourse with your dog? (Dan Savage doesn't get letters this good.)

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/liv...o/5599608.htm?
For 10 points, name the movie and the actor:

"It's not cheating, 'cause it's YOUR DOG"

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Old 04-18-2003, 06:11 PM   #2737
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Exactly where does the rEdiculous notion that there is virtue in suffering/sacrifice stem from? I understand that a lot of this silliness comes from Catholics' bizarre need to emulate the lives of saints, but this notion that self denail makes one a "better person" or more moral than others who enjoy themselves more often seems to be pompous self-righteous horseshit.
Here's what the bishops have to say in answer to your question....

Voluntary fasting from food creates in us a greater openness to God's Spirit and deepens our compassion for those who are forced to go without food. The discomfort brought about by fasting unites us to the sufferings of Christ. Fasting should bring to mind the sufferings of all those for whom Christ suffered. One may refrain from certain foods strictly for dietary purposes, but this would not be Christian penance. Rather, our fasting and refraining is in response to the workings of the Holy Spirit. By fasting we sense a deeper hunger and thirst for God. In a paradoxical way, we feast through fasting—we feast on the spiritual values that lead to works of charity and service. Did not the prophet Isaiah proclaim that such works characterize the fasting that God desires?

This . . . is the fasting that I wish:
releasing those bound unjustly,
untying the thongs of the yoke;
Setting free the oppressed,
breaking every yoke;
Sharing your bread with the hungry,
sheltering the oppressed and the homeless;
Clothing the naked when you see them,
and not turning your back on your own. (Is 58:6-7)
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Old 04-18-2003, 06:12 PM   #2738
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Abstinence — is a penitential practice consisting of refraining
from the consumption of meat and is to be observed by all Catholic who are 14 years of age and older.
This really complicates my contemplation of a proposal in our school district to limit sex-ed to "abstinence-based" counseling. I had thought I knew what it meant, but now . . .

("No, son, you can date, and screw, but don't EVER take her out for a steak without protection . . .")
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Lately I have been limiting myself to a full meal at lunch (not high in fat though) and a small dinner-time meal (e.g. english muffin with peanut butter or a Subway 6" sub or a salad). I am trying to cut my calories to around 1700-1800 at the moment because of the ever-looming swimsuit season (hey, I live in Dallas - lots of pressure to look good here).
That sounds like a lot less than 1700-1800 calories, but I have no idea of how big your lunch is. Most full meals are about 600 calories or so, so adding just an english muffin and peanut butter (120 Kcals for the muffin, another 80-90 for the p.b.), a 6" sub (about 350 kcals) or a salad (could be 100 or 1000, depending on add ons and dressing), could put you well below that. Also, going below 800 calories or so a day could make your body think you're starving and slow down your metabolism. Just be careful is all I'm sayin'.

C(then again, who am I? your mother? eat what you want...)deuced
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This really complicates my contemplation of a proposal in our school district to limit sex-ed to "abstinence-based" counseling. I had thought I knew what it meant, but now . . .

("No, son, you can date, and screw, but don't EVER take her out for a steak without protection . . .")
Not on Fridays during Lent, anyway.
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Here's what the bishops have to say in answer to your question....

Voluntary fasting from food creates in us a greater openness to God's Spirit and deepens our compassion for those who are forced to go without food. The discomfort brought about by fasting unites us to the sufferings of Christ. Fasting should bring to mind the sufferings of all those for whom Christ suffered. One may refrain from certain foods strictly for dietary purposes, but this would not be Christian penance. Rather, our fasting and refraining is in response to the workings of the Holy Spirit. By fasting we sense a deeper hunger and thirst for God. In a paradoxical way, we feast through fasting—we feast on the spiritual values that lead to works of charity and service. Did not the prophet Isaiah proclaim that such works characterize the fasting that God desires?

This . . . is the fasting that I wish:
releasing those bound unjustly,
untying the thongs of the yoke;
Setting free the oppressed,
breaking every yoke;
Sharing your bread with the hungry,
sheltering the oppressed and the homeless;
Clothing the naked when you see them,
and not turning your back on your own. (Is 58:6-7)
Isn't it a sacrilege to present earnest church teachings to be sarcastic?
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Old 04-18-2003, 06:25 PM   #2742
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Isn't it a sacrilege to present earnest church teachings to be sarcastic?
Shouldn't you be cleaning out your inbox instead of posting?

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Old 04-18-2003, 06:29 PM   #2743
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That sounds like a lot less than 1700-1800 calories, but I have no idea of how big your lunch is. Most full meals are about 600 calories or so, so adding just an english muffin and peanut butter (120 Kcals for the muffin, another 80-90 for the p.b.), a 6" sub (about 350 kcals) or a salad (could be 100 or 1000, depending on add ons and dressing), could put you well below that. Also, going below 800 calories or so a day could make your body think you're starving and slow down your metabolism. Just be careful is all I'm sayin'.

C(then again, who am I? your mother? eat what you want...)deuced
There is no way that I am below 800 cals per day. Thanks for the concern though.

Actually my main concern heading into my mid-thirties is that finally all the empty cals (not empty of taste mind you) from alcohol are making their presence known to my butt and thighs. As someone who did not have this problem in my 20s, I'm not sure how to handle this. How can anything related to alcohol be wrong? Life is so unfair!

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Shouldn't you be cleaning out your inbox instead of posting?

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Damn. Thanks. That got out of hand.
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Old 04-18-2003, 06:43 PM   #2745
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Wow, Catholic fasting is way easier than Mormon fasting. Mormons fast the first Sunday of each month. Fasting is complete abstinence from food or drink for two meals or 24 hours (depending on whom you ask). Typically that means no breakfast or lunch on Sunday, no food or drink (even water) whatsoever between arising and just after the blessing on the evening meal.

Some of the most orthodox/orthopractic Mormons won't go out for dessert the Saturday evening before a Fast Sunday, because then they would feel the need to push back Sunday's dinner to get in the full 24 hours. Super-orthodox Mormons will debate whether chewing gum or licking stamps breaks a fast. More liberal Mormons tend to be more casual about the whole fasting thing.

Diabetics, pregnant women and nursing mothers are not supposed to fast, but children are encouraged to fast starting at the age of 8.

"Fast Sunday breath" is a widespread phenomenon among Mormons on Fast Sunday--keep your distance.

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