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09-12-2006, 05:35 PM
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#2746
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It's all about me.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Enough about me. Let's talk about you. What do you think of me?
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Real close to walking out...
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Originally posted by patentparanyc
actually that helps me quite a bit. when I started out I was making jack and now making close to three times the orig. jack so if you have to be abused daily why not be paid top dollar for the privilege??
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You're right. My life sucks.
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Always game for a little hand-to-hand chainsaw combat.
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09-12-2006, 05:36 PM
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#2747
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Steaming Hot
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Giving a three hour blowjob
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Real close to walking out...
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Fuck that. Coltrane, if you're really unhappy and have been so for awhile (I say this because I don't remember you being all that bitter), then start planning your exit strategy. Don't think about "hanging in there," think about getting out. No magic transformation is going to suddenly start making you love it x years down the line.
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2. I think everyone has a geekitude for something and very few people's geekitude is satisfied by law. Fortunately for me, I do have a (hopefully well-hidden) geeky bent that gets excited about certain things about my job (I don't generally like the people too much, except the partner I currently work with, who is super-fantastic). But most people don't. And if absolutely no part of you gets excited about your job, then you should get out. If some little part of you does, then you can maybe find a way within the law to build on that, but if no part does, it's just never going to happen. imo, anyway.
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09-12-2006, 05:37 PM
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#2748
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: State of Chaos
Posts: 8,197
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Thanks Patriots
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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I'm a champ!
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I'm one of life's winners!
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09-12-2006, 05:42 PM
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#2749
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Steaming Hot
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Giving a three hour blowjob
Posts: 8,220
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Thanks Patriots
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
I'm one of life's winners!
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I think Penske gets my first-born or something like that. Good thing my womb is probably a rocky place....
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09-12-2006, 05:42 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,084
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Thanks Patriots
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Anyway, my point is that I don't understand why NFL teams shouldn't have to live with the deals they bargain for. If Dallas signed Bledsoe* for 5 years at $15 million per, they should be just as stuck with that contract as TO should have been when he signed for less to play for Philly.
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Because everyone understand that Bledsoe was only getting $15M in the fifth year because it wasn't guaranteed. Which is to say that NFL contracts are full of fake money at the end of the contract. Unlike MLB, where -- e.g. -- the money owed to Johnny Damon in the last year of his contract is going to have to be paid, whether or not he's still producing at the same level. (Just to take another Boston player who can no longer throw as well as he once could.)
Which is to say that if Bledsoe's contract were guaranteed, he'd be making a lot less. And the teams would be paying more players -- those that can play and those who became injured and now can't. The payroll is just as large, but it's spread across more people.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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09-12-2006, 05:43 PM
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#2751
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NYC
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Frankie Andreu: I love EPO
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Thing is, what's he going to do, tell the truth?
"Thanks Nike et al, but I don't want that $10M plus a year anymore, I think I will blow up my brand. Bye!"
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He can go on and on about how he's faced these allegations before, there's nothing new, he's never had a positive test, etc. But don't try to tell me it's not true because you're a cancer survivor and are inherently good and couldn't possibly have cheated and then lied repeatedly for enormous sums of money.
TM
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09-12-2006, 05:44 PM
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#2752
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: on an elliptical
Posts: 5,364
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Real close to walking out...
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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
You're right. My life sucks.
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Nobody is saying your life sucks. And nobody is saying that mine is so great. But for you and dtb to be incredulous that I am not falling all over myself to say "wow! you won the lottery of life you really did" is utter bs. We all make choices and live with them and I throw no envy your way....it's your choice...
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09-12-2006, 05:44 PM
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#2753
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
Posts: 19,042
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Real close to walking out...
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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
2. I think everyone has a geekitude for something and very few people's geekitude is satisfied by law. Fortunately for me, I do have a (hopefully well-hidden) geeky bent that gets excited about certain things about my job (I don't generally like the people too much, except the partner I currently work with, who is super-fantastic). But most people don't. And if absolutely no part of you gets excited about your job, then you should get out. If some little part of you does, then you can maybe find a way within the law to build on that, but if no part does, it's just never going to happen. imo, anyway.
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Or, figure out if there is a job that mostly deals with the little part you get excited about. Probably everyone will end up happier that way.
I won!
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09-12-2006, 05:45 PM
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#2754
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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Real close to walking out...
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Originally posted by patentparanyc
actually that helps me quite a bit. when I started out I was making jack and now making close to three times the orig. jack so if you have to be abused daily why not be paid top dollar for the privilege??
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Why not do it for free?
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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09-12-2006, 05:46 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,084
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Thanks Patriots
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I don't understand this at all. There is a salary cap. Teams will spend as much as they can under the salary cap either way. Why would they pay players less if they were all competing using guaranteed contracts? Contracts might be shorter in term, but if they want to sign a player, they will have to pay him his market value. They wouldn't falsely inflate the contract by offering him $2 mil the first year, $3 mil the second and then $5 mil the third, knowing they'll never pay him that $5 mil, which is what they seem to do right now.
Plus, everyone on the roster would make the money they bargained for. If they get injured because their sport is inherently dangerous, they will still collect. Granted, this would mean that more players would make money over the course of the season, but I don't see why teams should be able to back out of their deal because they aren't satisfied with it any more than the player should.
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The team is not backing out of anything if the deal was that they could walk away.
If the team needs 50 people on the roster, and if it's going to have to pay another 10 who would not be paid if their contracts were not guaranteed, it's going to have a payroll of 60 instead of 50. There's no reason to think that teams are going to be willing to spend more money on their player payroll than they do now, so they're going to divide up the money under the cap 60 ways instead of 50 ways.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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09-12-2006, 05:46 PM
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#2756
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
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Real close to walking out...
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Originally posted by patentparanyc
Nobody is saying your life sucks. And nobody is saying that mine is so great. But for you and dtb to be incredulous that I am not falling all over myself to say "wow! you won the lottery of life you really did" is utter bs. We all make choices and live with them and I throw no envy your way....it's your choice...
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The whole "don't need to work to live" thing reminds me of that "born on 3rd base/hit home run" thing.
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09-12-2006, 05:47 PM
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#2757
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
Posts: 26,231
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Real close to walking out...
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
2. And the thought that the increased cash will sooth the misery is illusory.
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I love my BMW... It gets me sooo fucking hard every morning. If I could just find a way to fuck it.
When they find a way to sell me time, the rat race will be worth it.
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All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.
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09-12-2006, 05:48 PM
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#2758
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: on an elliptical
Posts: 5,364
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Real close to walking out...
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
The whole "don't need to work to live" thing reminds me of that "born on 3rd base/hit home run" thing.
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You know what? any attractive woman worth her salt can find this type of set up. TM casting negative aspersions in my direction, aside, back in the day I had lots of options with successful men, however, I chafed at ceding control. It ain't no thing if you know what I'm saying. I'm not on the social register but anyone can find some gavone who made it big on the stock market...
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09-12-2006, 05:49 PM
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#2759
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
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Real close to walking out...
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Originally posted by patentparanyc
actually that helps me quite a bit. when I started out I was making jack and now making close to three times the orig. jack so if you have to be abused daily why not be paid top dollar for the privilege??
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Why not just hook?
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All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.
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09-12-2006, 05:50 PM
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#2760
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
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Real close to walking out...
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
The whole "don't need to work to live" thing reminds me of that "born on 3rd base/hit home run" thing.
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Isn't that "hit a triple"?
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