Meh.

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
My flowery ass would like nothing better than to be outed by your barely legal ass.

Clearly nobody has outed me to you or you'd be running in terror from my wrinkly spinster ass. But it's reassuring to know that my privacy is intact!

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I see a concensus arising here. Can we just agree on a no one-gives-a-shit-about-outing policy? Change the board policy from here on out that outing just isn't a bad thing? I'm okay with that.

No. People post here with the understanding that the management of their anonymity is up to them. There are people who do still care, obviously.

I can stand behind a "no one gives a shit about outing that doesn't happen on the board" policy.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I see a concensus arising here. Can we just agree on a no one-gives-a-shit-about-outing policy? Change the board policy from here on out that outing just isn't a bad thing? I'm okay with that.

Anything you say, George.

Your friend,

Bill

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
when I first started posting I made the decision to always be honest about myself. I would not make things up. It's bad form.

2.

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
That was not what I was told, and certainly her complaints were being and are being addressed. You may have more complete information than I do.

I have no idea how complete my information is since I only have one source.

I want to know one thing. Can my posts be edited by a moderator or admin to add (add, not remove) information that I find to be offensive? Especially something that is not related to either my post or anything that I have publicly posted on any of these boards?

I don't care if a moderator wants to post under their moniker something insulting about me. I can deal with that. But if a moderator has carte blanche to do whatever the fuck s/he wants to do with my posts, then I want to know about that before I post.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Originally, my post read "Others have simply left because of the white noise she (and Penske) generates."

eta: From you, allright! I got it from watching you!

Touche (accent over the "e"). Now I know why I still love you. Platonically.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by barely_legal

I want to know one thing. Can my posts be edited by a moderator or admin to add (add, not remove) information that I find to be offensive? Especially something that is not related to either my post or anything that I have publicly posted on any of these boards?

Additionally, I enjoy putting large fruits and vegetables in my ass.

I don't think they can do that.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by barely_legal
Yes, let's talk about outing. I bet I've spent more time with Paigow over the past four years than anybody else on this board. .

Biblical study?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
True, true, my friend.

One point, however. I think you mistakenly posted this in response to the wrong post. I am pretty sure you meant to respond to the baseless anti-The Daintiest Petunia vitriol spewed by Hank the Hater.

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[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by barely_legal
You are right, she hasn't been banned. But it's my understanding that she asked to be deleted because none of the moderators or administrators on this board would promise her that her posts would not be altered to include information that she finds offensive and/or potentially outable.

There are problems with this statement.

1. Paigow makes many claims about her rights and how she is treated on this board. The last one was serious. The admins and mods do not act based on one version of the story. And, as has been the case since this board was started, a discussion is being had at how best to handle the situation. Paigow gets pissed and throws out ultimatums because she is offended. I, among others, told her to take it easy until we found out what happened and could come up with a solution that everyone is okay with.

You're framing it solely from her point of view. "But it's my understanding that she asked to be deleted because none of the moderators or administrators on this board would promise her that her posts would not be altered to include information that she finds offensive and/or potentially outable." This is misleading.

2. The next problem is the following: "she finds offensive and/or potentially outable."

First of all, I don't give a shit about what she finds offensive. But to the extent that her (or anyone's) posts or profile is being edited by an admin or a mod, I have a problem with it. I think that's out of bounds.

Second of all, there is no one objective standard for what is outable. Is collecting information that people have put in their own posts and posting it in one place be defined as outable? Some may think so. Is paigow's (or any person's who is the subject of an outable post) standard of what is outable what is key? Can we come up with an objective standard? These are all questions that should be discussed. But I don't think we're going to come up with a bright-line rule. If we could, many more pussies would be flipped.

Originally posted by barely_legal
It's one thing to edit a post to remove offensive or outable information. I have no problem with that at all. It's purely another thing for a moderator to edit somebody's post to ADD information that is insulting, offensive and potentially outable.

Not many people would argue with this and your sentiments are exactly what has been relayed. We are now trying to figure out how to proceed so that no one will have a fear of that happening again.

TM

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I don't think they can do that.

However, if they could, then that would be something that might be a matter of concern. Especially if Slave were to post that picture we took one night at the glory hole joint on Hubbard. That could not only be outable, it might put me at the scene of a murder that I am currently alibied on.

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
There are problems with this statement.

1. Paigow makes many claims about her rights and how she is treated on this board. The last one was serious. The admins and mods do not act based on one version of the story. And, as has been the case since this board was started, a discussion is being had at how best to handle the situation. Paigow gets pissed and throws out ultimatums because she is offended. I, among others, told her to take it easy until we found out what happened and could come up with a solution that everyone is okay with.

You're framing it solely from her point of view. "But it's my understanding that she asked to be deleted because none of the moderators or administrators on this board would promise her that her posts would not be altered to include information that she finds offensive and/or potentially outable." This is misleading.

2. The next problem is the following: "she finds offensive and/or potentially outable."

First of all, I don't give a shit about what she finds offensive. But to the extent that her (or anyone's) posts or profile is being edited by an admin or a mod, I have a problem with it. I think that's out of bounds.

Second of all, there is no one objective standard for what is outable. Is collecting information that people have put in their own posts and posting it in one place be defined as outable? Some may think so. Is paigow's (or any person's who is the subject of an outable post) standard of what is outable what is key? Can we come up with an objective standard? These are all questions that should be discussed. But I don't think we're going to come up with a bright-line rule. If we could, many more pussies would be flipped.

Not many people would argue with this and your sentiments are exactly what has been relayed. We are now trying to figure out how to proceed so that no one will have a fear of that happening again.

TM

That's exactly the kind of information I needed. I think that the admins need to share this sort of information with us when things like this happen or else we're stuck with only the information we can glean from whatever sources are being the most vocal. And we know which source is usually the most vocal.

If you edit this post, I will kick your ass!




ETA: Like we're scared of you. -ncs
EFTA: No mods can alter your profile (and I'm not sure the benefit of allowing Admins that power, but maybe someone can explain it to me. If anyone modifies your posts, it should show up that the post was last edited by them at a certain time. I know this is true for Mods. True for Admins too? -ncs
EF(inally)TA: Everything TM said in his post above is true and we have been having a spirited discussion as to how best to handle the reasonable expectations of posters that their posts and profiles will not be modified by any third party. -ncs

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I see a concensus arising here. Can we just agree on a no one-gives-a-shit-about-outing policy? Change the board policy from here on out that outing just isn't a bad thing? I'm okay with that.

Now you're just being a dick.

TM

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by baltassoc
She drove several posters of the Infirmation DC board, and as they left, they made it clear why.

After Chef stopped moderating and ivy stopped posting there were a lot of Pussy Ass Sucker Asses on the DC board. No offence.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Something that was pretty damn funny.

Touche.