General discussion - Mom and Dad Esq. - Page 186

robustpuppy · 12-28-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by nononono
Also tried the "big girl" talk, to which she replied she wanted to stay little.

Being little rules. I want to be little again. Not for the sake of having wet pants, though.

taxwonk · 12-28-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by nononono
Thanks, helpful.

Ultimately, more so than you think. But that's the beauty of parenthood. We all approach it in our own way.

taxwonk · 12-28-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by pony_trekker
Because we're the parents that's why.

My 11 year old thinks he's old enough to drive but he'll learn to drive on my schedule: when he's 35.

I found that with the Wonk princess taking her to an arcade, letting her get in one of the road racing games, and noting "oops, you're dead" every time she hit the wall or "hey, you just killed someone" every time she hit another car gave her the patience to wait until she was sixteen.

It also taught her to always carry a shovel and plenty of lime in the trunk.

nononono · 12-28-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
Ultimately, more so than you think. But that's the beauty of parenthood. We all approach it in our own way.

It's sort of almost but not quite cute that you appear to think this is a revolutionary concept to me.

taxwonk · 12-28-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by nononono
It's sort of almost but not quite cute that you appear to think this is a revolutionary concept to me.

I never said that I thought the concept was revolutionary to you. On the other hand, it was clear from your post that you are fighting against it.

I was simply offering my experience having gone through the process twice.With the first one, we tried all knids of things, without success, until one day, the Princess announced that she was a big girl and didn't need pull-ups any more. And she didn't.

With the Monster, we put him in pull-ups and let him know that it was time to start going to the potty instead of relying on a diaper. We got him the Everybody Poops book, and we offered encouragement. He took a little longer than his sister, but he evevtually got the hang of it.

The point is, the second time we didn't get frustrated and didn't try to force the issue. He got to the point where he was ready and that was that.

If it makes you feel better to be a bit smug about things, then mazel tov, but I wasn't being condescending, just a bit facetious.

Snidely Condescending · 12-28-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
. . . I wasn't being condescending . . .

Indeed.

Wait a second -- this is a board for parents? You people actually have been breeding?

Egad. No wonder the Cup is no longer in Newport.

nononono · 12-28-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
I never said that I thought the concept was revolutionary to you. On the other hand, it was clear from your post that you are fighting against it.

I was simply offering my experience having gone through the process twice.With the first one, we tried all knids of things, without success, until one day, the Princess announced that she was a big girl and didn't need pull-ups any more. And she didn't.

With the Monster, we put him in pull-ups and let him know that it was time to start going to the potty instead of relying on a diaper. We got him the Everybody Poops book, and we offered encouragement. He took a little longer than his sister, but he evevtually got the hang of it.

The point is, the second time we didn't get frustrated and didn't try to force the issue. He got to the point where he was ready and that was that.

If it makes you feel better to be a bit smug about things, then mazel tov, but I wasn't being condescending, just a bit facetious.

No, no, sorry if I misread. The thing is, I haven't pushed at all - I'm sort of about that, and my older doesn't generally budge for anyone or fall for tricks, anyway - has always gone her own way, and she usually knows quite best for herself, so I tend to go with it. But she really is getting on what seems like the high side to me of not getting through the night. So I've just been wondering if I've missed something and taken the easy way out for me when there may be something to move her along.

Hank Chinaski · 12-28-2005, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by nononono
No, no, sorry if I misread. The thing is, I haven't pushed at all - I'm sort of about that, and my older doesn't generally budge for anyone or fall for tricks, anyway - has always gone her own way, and she usually knows quite best for herself, so I tend to go with it. But she really is getting on what seems like the high side to me of not getting through the night. So I've just been wondering if I've missed something and taken the easy way out for me when there may be something to move her along.

Maybe SHE'S really a boy and you got her the wrong kind of underpants?

nononono · 12-28-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Maybe SHE'S really a boy and you got her the wrong kind of underpants?

Like mother, like daughter. We like to call them panties, btw.

And I encourage gender confusion in underwear. I wear an excellent pair of boxer briefs to sleep in, and I often make my lovers wear my panties. No one seems to mind, and I intend to bring up my girls in the same way, so that maybe one day they, too, can meet their virtual Hank and have this very same conversation, over and over.

Not Bob · 12-28-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Maybe SHE'S really a boy and you got her the wrong kind of underpants?

Meh. I'd give it a 6. Hank-in-his-prime would have tied it in with a dtb-adjusting-her-son's-underpants reference.

mommylawyer · 12-28-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by nononono
So my older kid is 4, almost 4.5, and she's still wearing pull-ups to bed. She claims she is trying and occasionally will make it through the night dry, but she doesn't get up in the night, ever. She seems content to keep doing this. Do I need to get tough and get rid of the pullups and let her wet the bed, or is this still acceptable?

My 4 year old is night trained and we basically just bit the bullet and prepared for somemessy nights. we hit target or walmart and stocked up on sheets, put the mattress cover on and made sure we took him before he went to bed and also went in and woke him and took him straight to the bathroom when he woke up. We found that he mostly stayed dry during the night. after about 2 weeks, he was fine... I´d say in the last year he has had may 2 or 3 accidents.

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taxwonk · 12-28-2005, 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by nononono
No, no, sorry if I misread. The thing is, I haven't pushed at all - I'm sort of about that, and my older doesn't generally budge for anyone or fall for tricks, anyway - has always gone her own way, and she usually knows quite best for herself, so I tend to go with it. But she really is getting on what seems like the high side to me of not getting through the night. So I've just been wondering if I've missed something and taken the easy way out for me when there may be something to move her along.

If it's any comfort, with the Monster, he didn't get all the way off the pull-ups until he was five. What finally did it for him was going to day camp. They went swimming every day, and he didn't want all his peers to see him not wearing underwear. Thank God for peer pressure.

nononono · 12-28-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
If it's any comfort, with the Monster, he didn't get all the way off the pull-ups until he was five. What finally did it for him was going to day camp. They went swimming every day, and he didn't want all his peers to see him not wearing underwear. Thank God for peer pressure.

See, I see 5 lurking around the corner - never thought it would go this long. And she's fairly independent, peer-pressure-wise (though maybe a sleepover would do it). I think I made the mistake once of saying you can't go to kindergarten if you're not night-trained, which she then quickly turned into her position that she will do it when it is time to go to kindergarten. Of course, I thought that was going to happen at 4....

taxwonk · 12-28-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by nononono
See, I see 5 lurking around the corner - never thought it would go this long. And she's fairly independent, peer-pressure-wise (though maybe a sleepover would do it). I think I made the mistake once of saying you can't go to kindergarten if you're not night-trained, which she then quickly turned into her position that she will do it when it is time to go to kindergarten. Of course, I thought that was going to happen at 4....

She'll do it when she's ready. And you can get your revenge by not letting her get her ears pierced until she goes to college.

nononono · 12-28-2005, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
She'll do it when she's ready. And you can get your revenge by not letting her get her ears pierced until she goes to college.

Plotting revenge, good idea. That will give me something to occupy my mind when I take off that nasty wet pullup every morning.