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03-24-2004, 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
I was with you on this, until I realized it was probably a typo, so I let it slide.

However, bunny, please be on notice that if this was NOT a typo, I share in Ollie's outrage.

whiff

dtb · 03-24-2004, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
whiff

I can't keep up -- is this a compliment or an insult now?

robustpuppy · 03-24-2004, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
I am curious. You use this phrase a lot, and I would like to ask you why. I take it that it is a form of shorthand for "I am a fancy-pants" or similar. However, knowing which fork to use could also mean that your forbearers were in service, and as such, knew what went where, and for what purpose, which (I am ascribing this view to you, but it is an informed ascription -- if that's a word) would make you a not-fancy-pants.

I take it as shorthand for "I know what constitutes 'good manners,' and so when I choose to be ill-mannered it is not out of ignorance; ergo, I am not really a boor," and the question of whether he was born well or simply taught well is not relevant to that issue of whether his behavior ought to be judged as if he is, in fact, a boor.

That is, I don't believe Sebby thinks himself a fancy pants (despite his appreciation for the way the silky lining of his Hickeys caresses his bare buttocks).

03-24-2004, 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by Jack Manfred
Wrong.

First, native San Franciscans never said "hella." It was a clear tipoff that you grew up in the East Bay. I learned this the hard way in college.

Second, Hella is back and this time they're a guitar-and-drums combo.

Third (and unrelated), for a magazine to be a "cooze" magazine, it must use the word "cooze" to describe the female genitals. As Playboy does not, Playboy is not a "cooze" magazine.

Fourth (and related to the unrelated), I've never liked or understood the origin of that word. Atticus, BRC, your thoughts?

Right. East Bay, Walnut Creek. I knew that.

Why wouldnt you ask Cooter about the origin of cooze? I am sure he (or Sebby) would tell you its a combo of cooter, or coochie, and ooze (the sweaty salty stuff on the roast beef).

03-24-2004, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
I can't keep up -- is this a compliment or an insult now?

It means, in my lexicon, that you missed the joke.

03-24-2004, 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
I take it as shorthand for "I know what constitutes 'good manners,' and so when I choose to be ill-mannered it is not out of ignorance; ergo, I am not really a boor," and the question of whether he was born well or simply taught well is not relevant to that issue of whether his behavior ought to be judged as if he is, in fact, a boor.

That is, I don't believe Sebby thinks himself a fancy pants (despite his appreciation for the way the silky lining of his Hickeys caresses his bare buttocks).

Funny, I interpret as his passive aggressive way of establishing that he is in fact a classy guy, even though he is also one of the people. and this usually is bait for the I Reject Class rant even though I know which fork to use.

dtb · 03-24-2004, 01:55 PM

I have decided to take a stand on an issue I feel strongly about. Those of you who agree with me, I invite you to join me in this stand-taking, though our fight may be long and arduous, winning this battle will be well worth the effort.

You know how on e-bay you're supposed to leave feedback once you complete a transaction? Well, as a buyer, I feel that once I've made my prompt payment, the seller should leave his or her feedback immediately, as I have complied with my part of the bargain. So many sellers won't leave feedback until I've left mine. I say, That is BULLSH*T !! Feedback for the buyer should not be conditioned upon receiving good feedback from the buyer.

So, my line in the sand from now on will be -- NO FEEDBACK for sellers who don't leave it for me first. I know this is a tough thing to take a stand on, but someone had to do it.

Oh, and I found out last night that an old friend (that is, a friend I've had for a long time, not an elderly friend) is leaving her husband for a woman. Who knew?!?

dtb · 03-24-2004, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
It means, in my lexicon, that you missed the joke.

So Ollie's post was a joke? Wow.

Good one Ollie!

Tyrone Slothrop · 03-24-2004, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
She looks like Whoopi Goldberg in this pic.

Does that turn you on? NTTAWWT.

sebastian_dangerfield · 03-24-2004, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
I am curious. You use this phrase a lot, and I would like to ask you why. I take it that it is a form of shorthand for "I am a fancy-pants" or similar. However, knowing which fork to use could also mean that your forbearers were in service, and as such, knew what went where, and for what purpose, which (I am ascribing this view to you, but it is an informed ascription -- if that's a word) would make you a not-fancy-pants.

The actual derivation is from a midwestern friend who was always accused of being a hick. I heard him reply to someone who was making a classist statement by saying "Look, I know which forks to use, and you're full of shit." It was effective, so I adopted it.

I write as I'd speak, and this probably isn't the best medium for nuance. There's a delivery which compliments most of what I say and addresses any confusion the words alone might leave in a reader.

Tyrone Slothrop · 03-24-2004, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
I take it as shorthand for "I know what constitutes 'good manners,' and so when I choose to be ill-mannered it is not out of ignorance; ergo, I am not really a boor," and the question of whether he was born well or simply taught well is not relevant to that issue of whether his behavior ought to be judged as if he is, in fact, a boor.

Saying "I know which spork to use" is almost always a way of suggesting that you did a lot of international travel in the days when Boeing had made it cheaper and more comfortable but the early glamour had not quite worn off. Those heady days of TWA and Braniff!

OK, not quite that long ago.

sunnybunny · 03-24-2004, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
I have decided to take a stand on an issue I feel strongly about. ... So, my line in the sand from now on will be -- NO FEEDBACK for sellers who don't leave it for me first. I know this is a tough thing to take a stand on, but someone had to do it.

I'm so with you on this one, that is, unless you're buying my stuff.

ThurgreedMarshall · 03-24-2004, 02:10 PM

So, the secretary that sits ouside my office ends every non-business conversation with, "I love you." This annoys me to no end. I suppose it shouldn't, but what can I say? You knew it would.

So, how do people feel about this? I'm assuming that people don't say it as often as her, but do other people do this? What is your view of how much is too much?

While I feel like telling a loved one that you love them is a healthy expression of one's feelings, saying it all the time removes the power of the sentiment and the feeling behind it. Does anyone else feel this way? It's like when the secretary says it now, it's an after thought.

I also feel this way about compliments, but probably a little more to the extreme. I rarely compliment people. But when I do, that person definitely knows I mean it.

TM

greatwhitenorthchick · 03-24-2004, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
e-bay

Good for you.

I have an e-bay story. I was trying to sell something. I said it was used, I said no returns, and I said I don't accept credit cards. Some wackadoo bought it using buy-it-now. (it was only $30). Then, he decided he didn't want it because it was used. So he sends me this hilarious e-mail that it was very "odd and suspicious" that I wouldn't accept returns and don't accept credit cards, and "we would NOT BE DOING BISINESS" (his caps and spelling) and furthermore, he was an attorney.

So rather than go all through the hassle with ebay for non-paying buyer, just for a lousy $30, I let it go and I donated the item to the salvation army.

But just to say selling on ebay can be a pain in the ass.

Bad_Rich_Chic · 03-24-2004, 02:15 PM

I agree with your stand - this is mainly a problem with the commercial sellers, though not all of them.

On the Owl names - Glaukos (owl in greek, root of the oft used descriptive term for Athena); Sophia (wisdom); Blodeuwedd (woman changed into an owl in the Mabinogion); Nyctimene (the name of Minerva's owl per Ovid); Ascalaphus (man turned into an owl for telling on Persephone re: eating the pomegranate).

Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
I have decided to take a stand on an issue I feel strongly about. Those of you who agree with me, I invite you to join me in this stand-taking, though our fight may be long and arduous, winning this battle will be well worth the effort.

You know how on e-bay you're supposed to leave feedback once you complete a transaction? Well, as a buyer, I feel that once I've made my payment, the seller should leave his or her feedback immediately, as I have complied with my part of the bargain. So many sellers won't leave feedback until I've left mine. I say, That is BULLSH*T !! Feedback for the buyer should not be conditioned upon receiving good feedback from the buyer.

So, my line in the sand from now on will be -- NO FEEDBACK for sellers who don't leave it for me first. I know this is a tough thing to take a stand on, but someone had to do it.

Oh, and I found out last night that an old friend (that is, a friend I've had for a long time, not an elderly friend) is leaving her husband for a woman. Who knew?!?