Keeping it civil instead of returning to our dark ways

[Gattigap]

The Onion's story on the GOP's efforts to encourage minority voting is good stuff. Let every vote count!

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Gattigap
The Onion's story on the GOP's efforts to encourage minority voting is good stuff. Let every vote count!

I thought it was racist because there is a clear implication that blacks are so stupid they would fall for that. I know it is parody, but it is based on a racist stereotype. There is a reason they didn't do the story about Dems trying to convince suburban whites the election was on Nov. 3, but instead made it about Reps trying to convince blacks the election was Nov. 3, and that reason is steeped in racism.

[SlaveNoMore]

ThurgreedMarshall
Slave, I'm not sure you can confirm the former, but next time you're down there, can you confirm the latter?

I can affirmatively confirm that - as compared the President - you have no balls.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I can affirmatively confirm that - as compared the President - you have no balls.

Untrue. You can't seem to keep mine out of your mouth either.

Maybe you just like balls.

It's you that is the Great Uniter. You can't wait to reach across the aisle and grab some balls.

TM

[Not Me]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Untrue. You can't seem to keep mine out of your mouth either.

Maybe you just like balls.

It's you that is the Great Uniter. You can't wait to reach across the aisle and grab some balls.

This is incredibly offensive. What you are doing is trying to insult someone by saying they are homosexual.

[Not Me]

Interesting.

• Theriot-Orr was even more surprised a week later when more than 20 Indymedia Web sites were knocked offline as the computer servers that hosted them were seized in Britain.
  
  The Independent Media Center, more commonly known as Indymedia, says the seizure is tantamount to censorship, and civil libertarians agree. The Internet is a publishing medium just like a printing press, they argue, and governments have no right to remove Web sites.

http://news.findlaw.com/ap/ht/1700/1...053003_11.html

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Not Me
I haven't had time to read the stuff that has been sent to me about the various propositions on the ballot. Anyone have opinions on these? Especially Prop 66. In general, I am against 3 strikes your out unless at least one of the crimes is a violent crime like murder or rape. I am not for 3 strikes for nonviolent drug offenses. Wondering how others are planning on voting on these.

I'm no californicator, but the 3-strikes thingy caught my eye in the LA Times last week.

While (as you know) I don't have much sympathy for criminals, particularly recidivist criminals, I do have sympathy for taxpayers. My understanding is that the law-and-order crowd is opposed to rolling back 3 strikes, but its their unions doing the booing and it makes it sound like its for employment/personal economic reasons. My understanding of the law is that if the 2nd (or higher) strike is violent, the sentence is doubled and if the 3rd (or higher) strike is violent, yur outta there.

Which sounds good to me. Besides true-rapists, pedophiles and that whole crowd, the only people I think society needs to ensure are kept in jail for life, with no exceptions by a soft judge or jury commission, are violent criminals (particularly those who use a weapon). Basically, if you get caught buying or selling crack twice, and ya pull the trigger once thereafter, I'm ready to give up on ya. The simple fact is, even in the most violent neighborhoods, there aren't that many people willing to pull a trigger as a crime. Its the part of the gene pool that needs to be suppressed most.

Sadly, it has pitted Polly Klaas father (in favor of current law) against her 80+ grandfather (against). The father indicated he's willing to disown dad over it.

Hello

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
My understanding of the law is that if the 2nd (or higher) strike is violent, the sentence is doubled and if the 3rd (or higher) strike is violent, yur outta there.

I think the law as it stands now is that only one of the crimes has to be a serious or violent felony, but I am not sure. I also don't know if drug offenses are considered serious. If so, I will vote againt prop 66. I want murderes in jail, but drug addiction is a mental illness and I am not for jailing our mentally ill simply because we have made their illness a crime.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Why shouldn't we? He sure did, when he threw them away.

I hate it when you Bushies attack our troops.

[SlaveNoMore]

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I hate it when you Bushies attack our troops.

Me too:

"They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country."

[Adder]

Originally posted by Not Me
This is incredibly offensive. What you are doing is trying to insult someone by saying they are homosexual.

You get an A for reading comprehesion.

But a special note just for you: Senator Kerrey is not running for president.

[Adder]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Why shouldn't we? He sure did, when he threw them away.

It must be hard to forget about something while throwing it. But maybe that explains what happened to Yankee pitching....

[Adder]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
People might not learn the first time they are overwhelmed and defeated. They might not learn the second, or the third, or the fourth.... By the 10th or 11th time, they've learned.

To overwhelm and defeat someone, don't you need to know (1) who you are fighting and (2) where they are? Or is it enough to teach people by overwhelming and defeating someone who looks kinda like the people you are looking for? How about if they have names that are kinda, sorta the same?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by dtb
Unlikely -- considering that you need to sign a document saying you support Bush before they'll let you into the speech-giving area.

To the Kerry rallies? Or are you just trying to make a mean spirted point?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Ty, I have to say that the GOP has the better of it on the Rather/documents issue. It is _not_ changing the subject to say: "But the documents were forgeries." I wince every time you respond by saying: "Well, the subject matter of those forgeries was accurate." It is true, but non-responsive. That is changing the subject.

Why do you think the story is Rather getting taken by forgeries, as opposed to what Bush did or didn't do in the National Guard? Granted, at this point we all know the essential truth, so no one cares. Why are you wincing?