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[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Sure it does. Instead of running through the guy -- as you pointed out, an aggressive, physical play that would have also been by the book -- A-Rod avoided the contact, slapped at the ball, and then told the umpires he hadn't done it. It was his moment.

Wrong. Arroyo wouldn't have gone into the baseline. He would have stuck his glove out or tagged the base. What happened was a bang bang play. No time to slow down, calculate what Arroyo might do and then think about knocking him over. Would I have preferred that? Yez. Is it likely he would have had the opportunity? No. But don't let common sense get in the way of your analysis.

TM

[Bucco Bruce]

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Wait, did Boomer ever pitch for the D-Rays?

No, but we did have Jose Canseco for a while. He and Greg Vaughan were "The Hit Show."

That worked out well for us.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
You poor, poor Yankees fans. Even if A-Rod had played it hard and clean, the umpires and everyone else would have been picking on you.

RSN would have cried foul either way. They've mastered it to a near art form.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I'll tell you why. Because they have no class.

I may agree with you on Schilling -- I'm on the fence -- but if you think Trot Nixon has no class, you haven't been paying attention.

I knew you would bring this up. How many points did he score when he came back? If he had played well when he did, then he wasn't that injured. But I believe Walt Clyde was the real hero of that game. And no one says shit about what he did, do they?

And I knew that you would say that you knew that I would bring this up.

Kiss my ass, please. He was shot up so high that he couldn't feel it if his foot came off. If you want to give him extra credit, do it for that.

I never heard that, and I doubt it. I can't believe that he could be coordinated enough to find the strike zone if he couldn't feel his foot. But, prove me wrong.

Cool. As long as you know it had nothing to do with what we were talking about before you jumped in, I'm fine with that. In fact, feel free to continue talking to yourself about the World Series.

Well, since we were talking about Schilling's post-season performance, it seemed kinda germane to me.

FWIW, I agreed with Anne -- I thought your point about the Nixon and Schilling remarks was about the extent of the media fuss, and from my (particulary acute) vantage point, it hasn't been that big in Boston.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Wrong. Arroyo wouldn't have gone into the baseline. He would have stuck his glove out or tagged the base. What happened was a bang bang play. No time to slow down, calculate what Arroyo might do and then think about knocking him over. Would I have preferred that? Yez. Is it likely he would have had the opportunity? No. But don't let common sense get in the way of your analysis.

TM

I see. So A-Rod didn't even have time to think about that slap -- it was just some sort of involuntary twitch or something that reveals nothing about his character. Got it.

The whole thing was almost mythic. Game 6. Late innings. Jeter on base, hoping someone else on the team will rise to the occasion. Schilling is out of there and the Yankees are batting against a former Pittsburgh Pirate with cornrows who looks like a Tony Clark sneeze would send him into the stands. Their last chance before Foulke shows up. A-Rod hits his squibber to the pitcher, and slaps at Arroyo's glove. Then, after he's been called out, he tries to show the umpire he was just running.

You can keep overanalyzing any little part of this to try to defend your pussy, but it was what it was.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
I haven't heard anything about ARod on my brief surfing of the local evening news programs.

Look, I don't give a shit what is happening in Boston. I saw it on ESPN (which I believe you have in Boston) and I read the article on it in the Daily News. It struck me as a stupid thing to do. You said it struck you as harmless without even knowing what was said. That makes less sense than Nixon actually making the comments.

Originally posted by Anne Elk
Damon's wedding got more press than the current round of ARod bashing.

Who cares?

Originally posted by Anne Elk
If you want to debate the contents of the comments I need to find them and read them.

Exactly. I don't want to hear your opinion on it if you hadn't even heard them.

Originally posted by Anne Elk
Maybe they are making the comments because reporters are asking them the questions.

Again, with the stupid responses from you.

1. Reporters constantly ask questions. Professionals respond professionally. Idiots respond like idiots.

2. And both Schilling and Nixon started this. Nixon's comments came after he read an article in which ARod said he trained six hours a day. And Trot got all mad. Talk about inferiority complexes.

Originally posted by Anne Elk
In general, I think players talking smack before the season has even started are just stupid. You haven't even played a game yet. Both teams have different personnel. Shut up and practice and let's see what happens in April.

You must be a Jeter fan.

Originally posted by Anne Elk
FWIW we also booed ARod when he was with the Rangers.

Doesn't make up for the whining when you guys didn't sign him last season. In fact, it makes it look like you only hate him because you couldn't sign him.

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Nixon's comments came after he read an article in which ARod said he trained six hours a day. And Trot got all mad. Talk about inferiority complexes.

It was more like an involuntary spasm. He didn't think about it. It doesn't reveal anything about him.

[SlaveNoMore]

ThurgreedMarshall
Doesn't make up for the whining when you guys didn't sign him last season. In fact, it makes it look like you only hate him because you couldn't sign him.

You forget also that the Sox ownership called the League office and tried to have Selig block the trade "for the good of the game"

Unrelated question - is it true that the Sox tried to trade Nelson for Verne Troyer?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Not Bob
If the wide receiver pleads a bit, but then trots back to the huddle, no problem. And if the outfielder traps the ball and tries to pretend he caught it, same thing. Maybe this is a distinction without a difference to you, but they didn't cheat. They tried to catch the ball, and are hoping that the ref/umpire didn't see that their attempt failed. To me, that is different than hoping that the ref/umpire didn't see them breaking a rule.

Yeah, we'll agree to disagree on this one. They're all trying to get over. You can draw your distinction wherever you like.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You poor, poor Yankees fans. Even if A-Rod had played it hard and clean, the umpires and everyone else would have been picking on you.

This is astounding coming from a Sox fan.

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
This is astounding coming from a Sox fan.

TM

It's not paranoia when they really are out to get you. Everyone knows that.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I may agree with you on Schilling -- I'm on the fence -- but if you think Trot Nixon has no class, you haven't been paying attention.

Actually, I have. Trot called ARod a dead-beat dad because he chose to work out for 6 hours a day (less than an average work day for almost everybody on the face of the earth) because he doesn't take his (3 month old) daughter to school in the morning like good citizen Trot does. What a joke.

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
And I knew that you would say that you knew that I would bring this up.

I guess you didn't predict that you'd have no response.

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I never heard that, and I doubt it. I can't believe that he could be coordinated enough to find the strike zone if he couldn't feel his foot. But, prove me wrong.

Did you watch the game? They said about 10,000 times before, during and after that he couldn't get a feel of the mound or how hard he was pushing off because of all the pain injections. And that the real danger was that he would further injure himself and not even know it. Either way, it makes no difference to me. Pain or no pain, he pitched in the mid-low 90s, which means he wasn't that hurt.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I see. So A-Rod didn't even have time to think about that slap -- it was just some sort of involuntary twitch or something that reveals nothing about his character. Got it.

What the fuck are you talking about?

The guy reached out for him and he slapped the glove away. He did it on purpose and then he argued that he didn't. He is a horrible, horrible person. I assume you petitioned the Sox to get rid of Pedro for trying to hit people in the face? Didn't think so. No? Not even after he lied about it in interviews after to avoid a fine and suspension? That can't be.

Anyone who argues that that play was a big deal is looking for something in nothing.

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The whole thing was almost mythic. Game 6. Late innings. Jeter on base, hoping someone else on the team will rise to the occasion. Schilling is out of there and the Yankees are batting against a former Pittsburgh Pirate with cornrows who looks like a Tony Clark sneeze would send him into the stands. Their last chance before Foulke shows up. A-Rod hits his squibber to the pitcher, and slaps at Arroyo's glove. Then, after he's been called out, he tries to show the umpire he was just running.

You can keep overanalyzing any little part of this to try to defend your pussy, but it was what it was.

Ha. Nice framing. Poor little Arroyo. So little and girlish. Shouldn't be playing with the big kids. He weighs only 16 pounds. Big bad ARod hit him right in the arm -- oops, no. The glove. He struck his glove! Oh no! What? He's not apologizing and writing Arroyo a check for pain and suffering? But he's so rich! The horror! The Sox got the call anyway? What? Jeter was out at second and it turns out worse for the Yankees? Jeez. How else can we find a way to bitch and moan and whine over a play that amounts to nothing?

Jesus. Pathetic.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It was more like an involuntary spasm. He didn't think about it. It doesn't reveal anything about him.

When you post about the topic, you suffer from the same affliction.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It's not paranoia when they really are out to get you. Everyone knows that.

New topic.

What percentage of the guys Canseco accuses of juicing actually did?

I say 100%.

TM