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11-09-2006, 12:37 AM
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#271
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Bush Press Conference
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Corruption? BS (see Reid).
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That Harry Reid is one corrupt Mormon. If Duke Cunningham and Bob Ney are in prison, surely Harry Reid deserves to be there too for all of that awful stuff, like transferring a piece of property that he owned to a corporation that he owned.
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11-09-2006, 12:38 AM
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#272
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Gattigap
The Corner has been fun to read today.
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Oddly enough, I've found the lefty sites more interesting, although www.powerlineblog.com has - as usual - some very insightful entries. A few:
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Yesterday's biggest winners: illegal immigrants
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Can't disgree with that. And I hope this is the first of many retaliatory filibusters. What's good for the goose...
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I've been traveling this morning and unable to comment on last night's results until now. I noticed in an AP story this morning that in the post-war era, the average 6th-year loss by the party in power was 31 House seats and 6 Senate seats. In that sense, you could say that last night's result was almost exactly average. That's misleading, I think, because there are fewer districts in play today than in the earlier post-war era, mainly because of the Voting Rights Act. So, while not a sweep equal to the Republicans' 1994 victory, this was a big win for the Democrats.
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That's an excellent point that no one really mentioned - gerrymandering makes this Dem win that much bigger
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There is another difference, though, between 1994 and 2006. In 1994, the Republicans ran on a platform, the Contract with America. Their victory therefore gave them a mandate, notwithstanding that many voters were vaguely aware (if at all) of the Contract. This year, the Democrats ran as non-Republicans. They made a deliberate decision not to take a posiion on the biggest issue of the day, the Iraq war, and they downplayed (at least in competitive races) their intention to raise taxes and take other unpopular measures....
We can see this partly from the various ballot initiatives that won yesterday, but even more so from the fact that the Democrats still aren't showing their liberal side to the voters. Unlike the Republicans in 1994, they didn't run on a program of tax hikes, softness in national security, gay marriage, etc. The Democrats have become the stealth party of American politics.
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As I've said, does the leadership hide its stripes?
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Even though the leftists are a minority in America, the shortsighted middle and cut and run Reps have handed enormous power to the left. There will be consequences to this abrogation of responsibility by that portion of the American electorate.... The greatest consequence, however, is our national security. Even though the squishy middle will not want to be more vulnerable to terrorist attack, the consequences of their vote will be that it is more likely. The leftists will see that terrorist surveillance programs are history. Aggressive interrogation of terrorists will cease. Iraq’s future looks bleak. Iran’s ascension looks secure. (This is tragic. The mullahs grip on power is tenuous at best. A leftist American tilt will strengthen them.) Our allies in the war on terror will doubt our resolve. They will be looking to cut a deal with the terrorists as a matter of survival. Israel will be exposed. North Korea will be emboldened just when they have blinked. The list goes on and on....
I take heart in that Democrats had to run DINOS to win. Most of their House winners and both Casey in PA and Webb in VA, should he prevail, ran on essentially republican platforms.
This gives these freshmen enormous power if they sieze it, especially in the House. If those freshment allow themselves to be subverted and controlled by the liberal leadership in the House, their stay in Congress will be brief. It will be interesting indeed to see how Pelosi deals with the Blue Dog Democrats they have invited into their midst.
One can hope that we will look back in a few years and see this election as the beginning of sanity reclaiming the democratic party from the moonbat left.
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Amen.
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11-09-2006, 12:42 AM
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#273
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Bush Press Conference
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Tyrone Slothrop
That Harry Reid is one corrupt Mormon. If Duke Cunningham and Bob Ney are in prison, surely Harry Reid deserves to be there too for all of that awful stuff, like transferring a piece of property that he owned to a corporation that he owned.
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And then not disclosing it. And not disclosing he used campaign contributions as his personal piggybank.
But since you're about to get used to defending thieves, Ty, you may as well start with Reid.
Speaking of thieves, was Spanky assassinated by the Pombo posse?
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11-09-2006, 12:45 AM
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#274
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Consigliere
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Quote of the Day
When Republicans worry more about staying in government than about limiting government, they get thrown out of government.
- Mark Tapscott
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11-09-2006, 12:47 AM
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#275
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 235
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Yes, but that is much less a trade issue than the passport one. For people near the border (read: almost all Canadians), this is one of the biggest issues around.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
How do you define "trade"?
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Massholes like 3G like renting maple flavored sluts.
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11-09-2006, 12:51 AM
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#276
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Bush Press Conference
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And then not disclosing it.
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Since he wasn't enriched at all by the transfer, I fail to see how the failure to disclose makes him corrupt. (eta: Compare that to Denny Hastert's purchase of land and subsequent use of his office to build a highway nearby, increasing its value. I guess that was your point -- the two situations are utterly analogous.)
What he did would not have been worth anyone's time if Republicans weren't trying to trash him to try to neutralize all of their problems this year.
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And not disclosing he used campaign contributions as his personal piggybank.
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How date he enrich his (doubtless overpaid) staff by giving them Christmas bonuses? The man is truly heinous and corrupt.
The stuff you're posting from the Corner is interesting. Trashing Reid is just kinda sad.
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Speaking of thieves, was Spanky assassinated by the Pombo posse?
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I am truly happy to see Pombo gone, and I hope Spanky is finding a silver lining in the fact that he won't be infesting the government anymore.
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11-09-2006, 01:06 AM
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#277
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
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Bush Press Conference
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Since he wasn't enriched at all by the transfer, I fail to see how the failure to disclose makes him corrupt.
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I went to law school at GW, I'm pretty sure whereever Ty went taught different rules.
But if what Ty says the above is a compelling argument doesn't that imply that Bush's "lie" about firing Rummie is no-harm no-foul?
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11-09-2006, 02:26 AM
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#279
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Consigliere
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Bush Press Conference
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Tyrone Slothrop
How date he enrich his (doubtless overpaid) staff by giving them Christmas bonuses? The man is truly heinous and corrupt.
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Do you routinely tip your doorman from your firm's petty cash? I thought not.
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The stuff you're posting from the Corner is interesting. Trashing Reid is just kinda sad.
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Reid's a crook. That he's from Nevada should be QED.
And I was posting from Powerline. How much jug wine have you been drinking, anyway?
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11-09-2006, 02:33 AM
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#280
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
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The Man who whould be...
our next President.
I give you - the other Mormon - Mitt Romney
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Americans spoke last night and Republicans are listening. Americans have not become less conservative, but they believe some Republicans have. As a party, we need to remember who we are and the principles that have always led our party and our country to success.
We must return to the common sense Reagan Republican ideals of fighting for hard working Americans, lowering taxes, shrinking government, curbing out-of-control spending, promoting the traditional values of faith, family and freedom, and providing a strong national security with all the necessary tools to protect the American people and win the War on Terror.
This country wants resolute leadership to tackle tough issues and a positive vision for a better future here at home and around the world. They want leadership that trusts the American people, keeps America strong and moves our country forward.
Americans across the country over the past year didn’t say they want higher taxes. They didn’t say they want more run-away wasteful spending or a Congress that continues irresponsible pork projects. Nobody ever said that this nation needs a bigger deficit.
Americans didn’t say they wanted more activist judges who legislate from the bench and they don’t want less secure borders.
No one said they want more rights for terrorists, nor did they ask that we stop terrorist surveillance … and nobody suggested that we should make life even harder for our brave men and women fighting terror around the world.
We didn’t hear a mandate for a more liberal direction because the Democrats didn’t present one. Americans don’t share those liberal ideas.
What voters told us is that America is stuck and Washington is broken. Voters told us to move forward by embracing our conservative convictions that Americans agree with and value – and we will.
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So say we all.
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11-09-2006, 11:38 AM
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#281
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: In that cafe crowded with fools
Posts: 1,466
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Bush Press Conference
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Originally posted by baltassoc
How did you miss this:
- I told Congresswoman Pelosi that I look forward to working with her and her colleagues to find common ground in the next two years. As the majority party in the House of Representatives, they recognize that in their new role they now have greater responsibilities. And in my first act of bipartisan outreach since the election, I shared with her the names of some Republican interior decorators who can help her pick out the new drapes in her new offices. (Laughter.)
W is for Women.
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Lemme guess - you take that as a sexist thing to say? I find it conceivable it could have been said to anyone, and maybe it's sexist to think that just because a female legislator and "interior decorator" were mentioned in the same sentence it has anything to do with her femaleness. Assuming it wasn't a "stupid woman" comment, I think it's a mighty big thing of him to be albe to make a light joke about it. Can you *imagine* Gore or Kerry being able to take that tack?
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11-09-2006, 11:42 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
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Webb, Casey... the Moderates
To the assholes on the far Left and the Right, take a hint. Your days are numbered.
This election was a repudiation of DailyKos, Limbaugh, Townhall and MoveOn.
The angry moderates stepped up to the plate.
Emanuel's a smart bastard. He's already taken Waxman, Conyers and the rest of the idiot left wingers aside and told them to shut their fucking mouths about impeachment if they want to hold this majority past the next 24 months.
There is. no. liberal. revolution. There will be. no. liberal. revolution.
And thankfully, blessedly, the days of the Jesus Freaks running the GOP look to be coming to an end.
"Meet the new boss, same as [what the old boss should have been and told us they intended to be]..."
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11-09-2006, 12:00 PM
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#283
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
Posts: 7,007
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Bush Press Conference
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
That Harry Reid is one corrupt Mormon. If Duke Cunningham and Bob Ney are in prison, surely Harry Reid deserves to be there too for all of that awful stuff, like transferring a piece of property that he owned to a corporation that he owned.
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Yea, I have to agree with you on this one. Based on what I read, there was really nothing wrong here, other than perhaps a technical disclosure violation.
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11-09-2006, 12:04 PM
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#284
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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The Man who whould be...
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
our next President.
I give you - the other Mormon - Mitt Romney
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Not a chance in hell.
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11-09-2006, 12:07 PM
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#285
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
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Bush Press Conference
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Yea, I have to agree with you on this one. Based on what I read, there was really nothing wrong here, other than perhaps a technical disclosure violation.
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Don't minimize the disclosure violation, however, which is of great significance. No, there was not ultimately a conflict of interest that arose, but to suggest that failing to disclose should be "no harm, no foul" is not a sensible course.
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