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06-08-2007, 06:54 PM
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beeyootiful beeeetch
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
predictions?
The early stuff about Meadow or AJ moving into the life seems really far fetched now. I'm betting on major arrests for the NY guys with Tony getting smei-retired ala Carmine Jr. The hour isn't enough for a real war, and the only other outcome is too sad.
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Janice kills Tony.
Junior ends up back at the head of the NJ family.
Leotardo and Butchie end up under arrest by Harris and the Feds.
Carmine Jr. ends up head of NY family.
more to follow.........
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hbm
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06-08-2007, 06:57 PM
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Wearing the cranky pants
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Hell Hath No Fury Like a Judge Scorned
Think he was a little mad?
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06-08-2007, 06:58 PM
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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And besides...
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
How would a medical facility, even if within the prison system, not be a covered entity? Granted, I never had to research this type of thing at all. The most we had to deal with was clients with on-site clinics with doctors paid by the company (not contracted).
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Skip unless you really care about HIPAA.
A covered entity is a) a health plan, b) a health care clearinghouse, or c) a health care provider that who transmits any health information in electronic form in connection with a transaction [covered by the administrative simplification parts of HIPAA].
If they don't submit electronic claims to health insurers, then they're not covered entities under HIPAA. Lots of health care providers are either subcontractors or bill directly to the patient or otherwise not involved with electronic claims submission.
'Course, they're probably still covered under California's medical privacy protection laws. But not HIPAA.
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06-08-2007, 06:58 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Originally posted by handsome boy model
Janice kills Tony.
Junior ends up back at the head of the NJ family.
Leotardo and Butchie end up under arrest by Harris and the Feds.
Carmine Jr. ends up head of NY family.
more to follow.........
regards,
hbm
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Carmine's family was always NY, until last week. Last week was the first time I heard 5 families. Tony might have some allies?
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06-08-2007, 06:59 PM
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And besides...
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Skip unless you really care about HIPAA.
A covered entity is a) a health plan, b) a health care clearinghouse, or c) a health care provider that who transmits any health information in electronic form in connection with a transaction [covered by the administrative simplification parts of HIPAA].
If they don't submit electronic claims to health insurers, then they're not covered entities under HIPAA. Lots of health care providers are either subcontractors or bill directly to the patient or otherwise not involved with electronic claims submission.
'Course, they're probably still covered under California's medical privacy protection laws. But not HIPAA.
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I would think they would have to submit health information, even if not claims, to someplace, just for prison records or whatever. Maybe those are not transactions w/in the meaning of the statute?
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06-08-2007, 07:04 PM
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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And besides...
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I would think they would have to submit health information, even if not claims, to someplace, just for prison records or whatever. Maybe those are not transactions w/in the meaning of the statute?
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Warning: more HIPAA stuff no one in their right mind (but me and fringie) should care about.
The transactions refer to the electronic transactions in 44 CFR 162.900 et. seq. relating to the submission of claims electronically.
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06-08-2007, 07:04 PM
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I know the perfect place for us to dry hump
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I could pretty much cook almost anything worth eating with a 12-inch cast-iron skillet and a 7" santoku. Whatever else you buy, make sure you buy these two items.
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Cast iron is not nearly as much fun to cook with until it's been used regularly for years.* I have one, but am kind of waiting for my parents to kick off so I can take theirs over. I don't cook frequently enough. Theirs is a little smaller than 12" but is smooth as silk.
*In fact, I think newish cast iron is on the pain-in-the-ass side, comparatively speaking, especially w/r/t cleanup.
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06-08-2007, 07:05 PM
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And besides...
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Warning: more HIPAA stuff no one in their right mind (but me and fringie) should care about.
The transactions refer to the electronic transactions in 44 CFR 162.900 et. seq. relating to the submission of claims electronically.
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huh, nifty. Thanks!
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06-08-2007, 07:06 PM
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beeyootiful beeeetch
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sopranos
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Carmine's family was always NY, until last week. Last week was the first time I heard 5 families. Tony might have some allies?
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Yes, he does. Agent Harris saves his ass. But then crazy Janice pops a cap into it. Junior will run the family through Janice.
yt,
hbm
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06-08-2007, 07:06 PM
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Fantastic!
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Apparently he's a huge fan of TomKat and Suri too.
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If you go to cnn.com's video choices and select "Paris news prompts outburst," you can hear him at a press conference scream "NO NO NO NOOO," when her attorney announces that she's been remanded. It's actually pretty funny.
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06-08-2007, 07:43 PM
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Take THAT, NYC noses...
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Here's the thing. I don't think we're really disagreeing that much. People always talk about special treatment for celebrities, whether it's in one direction (cops let you go because they are star struck) or the other (you take a hit because you are rich and famous and the cops hate you for it or want to make a name for themselves). I think both of those things are complete bullshit and should never occur. Hell, Michael Jordan sped through Illinois every day in his Ferrari and kept autographed hats and sneakers and shit in the back to get out of tickets. That's bullshit.
I also think that it's bullshit that if you kill a cop, it's more serious than if you kill a homeless person. I don't think rich people should be able to negotiate their surrender. I don't think darker skinned people should get heavier sentences. I don't think anyone should be segregated for their safety because of who they are when others are being raped daily. I think everyone should be treated the same under the law.
If you really believe that if we treated a hearing, the court and the judge, like they were a joke, that we wouldn't have been given a jail sentence, then I guess we disagree on that. But if you think that any normal schmoe would get one for that kind of disrespect, then she should too.
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You're right on that issue. The fact is undeniable that anyone behaving as she did would get a nasty sentence. My concern was more about whether that is fair - whether a judge should allow anger toward a defendant to infect his ruling.
She behaved like a horse's ass and got what she had coming to her. But I think the Courts are technically supposed to be above that. I don't think its fair for a normal shmuck to get a sentence enhancement for being a dickhead to a judge. I used to watch it happen and get angry.
I'll offer this. The last criminal I got a deal for was very contrite. He followed all the rules in Court. He turned around and did something insanely dangerous and caused an accident two weeks after we cut the deal. The Courts should have nailed him. But he was the picture of regret.
Our crim justice system is not a sham, but it is a random crapshoot.
I disagree with your position on segregating prisoners. If we put them all together, the true crazies would kill everyone famous and every cop or politician jailed.
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06-08-2007, 07:58 PM
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#282
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beeyootiful beeeetch
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Take THAT, NYC noses...
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You're right on that issue. The fact is undeniable that anyone behaving as she did would get a nasty sentence. My concern was more about whether that is fair - whether a judge should allow anger toward a defendant to infect his ruling. I think its a very strange for of the same unfairness I see when a person receives, as you note, an enhanced sentence for killing a cop.
From a practical pragmatic perspective, I can't refute your point. She behaved like a horse's ass and got what she had coming to her. But I think the Courts are technically supposed to be above that. I don't think its fair for a normal shmuck to get a sentence enhancement for being a dickhead to a judge. I used to watch it happen and get angry.
I'll offer this. The last criminal I got a deal for was very contrite. He followed all the rules in Court. He turned around and did something insanely dangerous and caused an accident two weeks after we cut the deal. The Courts should have nailed him. But he was the picture of regret.
Our crim justice system is not a sham, but it is a random crapshoot.
I disagree with your position on segregating prisoners. If we put them all together, the true crazies would kill everyone famous and every cop or politician jailed.
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Any odds on the chances Paris will get some ladylovin in the stir? (she's bi-curious, right?)
best regards,
hbm
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06-08-2007, 10:30 PM
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I hear that train a coming.
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield I disagree with your position on segregating prisoners. If we put them all together, the true crazies would kill everyone famous and every cop or politician jailed.
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They probably don't really care about keeping Paris or Winona or Nicole or Phil Spector or Bob Ney alive. It's all about the prison desiring to maintain control and keeping the guards safe[r]. That's the same reason why the wardens and correctional officers organizations tend to get annoyed when politicians start to whine about prisoners getting "privileges" like watching TV and lifting weights.
But, sebby, I think that your analysis of whether you or I would get the same sentence as Paris did for doing what she did is really off -- perhaps not for the Keystone State, but definitely for around here. Thanks to the efforts of MADD, she would have done at least 30 days for the initial DUI around my neck of the woods, and driving on a DUI suspended licence is another stint of time, pretty much guarranteed.
As an aside, I feel bad for her. Granted, I think that she needs to be accountable, and I have no issue with her getting 45 days for what she did. But it just seems like the very people in the tabloid media who made her what she is are taking an unseemly delight in seeing her suffer, and it just strikes me as more than a little bit cruel.
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06-08-2007, 10:48 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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I hear that train a coming.
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Originally posted by Not Bob
They probably don't really care about keeping Paris or Winona or Nicole or Phil Spector or Bob Ney alive. It's all about the prison desiring to maintain control and keeping the guards safe[r]. That's the same reason why the wardens and correctional officers organizations tend to get annoyed when politicians start to whine about prisoners getting "privileges" like watching TV and lifting weights.
But, sebby, I think that your analysis of whether you or I would get the same sentence as Paris did for doing what she did is really off -- perhaps not for the Keystone State, but definitely for around here. Thanks to the efforts of MADD, she would have done at least 30 days for the initial DUI around my neck of the woods, and driving on a DUI suspended licence is another stint of time, pretty much guarranteed.
As an aside, I feel bad for her. Granted, I think that she needs to be accountable, and I have no issue with her getting 45 days for what she did. But it just seems like the very people in the tabloid media who made her what she is are taking an unseemly delight in seeing her suffer, and it just strikes me as more than a little bit cruel.
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As opposed to a seemly delight in seeing suffering?
Sorry, didn't mean to bring things back to A-Rod.
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06-08-2007, 11:19 PM
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I hear that lonesome whistle/I hang my head and cry.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
As opposed to a seemly delight in seeing suffering?
Sorry, didn't mean to bring things back to A-Rod.
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Were A-Rod headed to the Big House, I would feel the same way.
AoN, Buzz Bissinger's "3 Nights in August" is fascinating.
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