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Tyrone Slothrop · 04-21-2003, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch In other movie news, "Spider-Man" was a huge disappointment. I'll let you know in about six months whether "Chicago" is any good.

Who let you off the "Lawyers With Kids" board?

T. (feeling your pain) S.

leagleaze · 04-21-2003, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I don't have a dog in this fight, as I've seen neither the movie nor the website, and I don't particularly care, but Roger Ebert pointed out that Moore has attempted to answer the critics on his website with affidavits etc., and his critics are now answering the answer etc. And now it's down to dueling blogs, which is what passes for public discourse these days. So if you're interested in knowing whether Moore has answers to these accusations, they're all publicly available, though I'm too lazy to find the URL for you.

In other movie news, "Spider-Man" was a huge disappointment. I'll let you know in about six months whether "Chicago" is any good.

Yeah, I am looking at his site actually, have been for a little while now since I apparently am not having a productive work day.

Spider man was a disappointment, but I enjoyed Chicago.

I still enjoyed Moore's film, I blame myself for not watching it even more critically. But I also think it is absurd it is being lauded as a documentary.

sebastian_dangerfield · 04-21-2003, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I guess then you haven't read Eason Jordan's op-ed in the WSJ detailing how CNN kept mum about Iraq atrocities for over a decade.

Or perhaps you have, and this news whitewash is what you mean by reporting "anything"

not7yS

Dude, when people's lives are at risk, what CNN did is acceptable. Be a little pragmatic on this one.

In the sewer of media crimes in the past few years, CNN's is pretty fucking small.

SlaveNoMore · 04-21-2003, 05:35 PM

In other news, legendary and incomparable jazz great Nina Simone died today at the age of 70.

not7yS

leagleaze · 04-21-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
In other news, legendary and incomparable jazz great Nina Simone died today at the age of 70.

not7yS

Damn. That really sucks.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 04-21-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

I have two questions:

(1) Is that a putter?!!

(2) Does the next picture in this sequence show a headless spaniel?

That may not even be a golf ball. What sport is this????

1) Looks like it, or a chipping wedge.

2) No, a spaniel chasing an orange tennis ball across the lawn.

(bonus q

see above.

purse junkie · 04-21-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

I have two questions:

(1) Is that a putter?!!

(2) Does the next picture in this sequence show a headless spaniel?

That may not even be a golf ball. What sport is this????

The key question is, how the hell is a well-bred WASP like him violate all rules of decorum by playing golf in a suit?

Then again, perhaps I shouldn't complain. Beats photos of Bill Clinton jogging in those little nylon shorts any day.

pj

bilmore · 04-21-2003, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
So, enough with the "evil" rhetoric. Save it for someone who actually fits the description.

He does. I have a special place in my heart for Oliver Stone and Moore and all others who attempt to pass off as non-fiction what they clearly know is fiction. Too many people watch it, figure that if they saw it on a screen it must be true ("well, they couldn't just LIE about it on camera, could they?!") and then forever are fucked up in their knowledge of history - especially when the lying is done to serve an agenda (which throws me about Stone, because JFK's only apparent agenda is "look at me - I'm Ollie Stone - I don't know jack about history"). I understand that movies aren't true, that cartoons don't really happen, and that Rob wasn't really screwing Laura, but I draw a line at a medium that says "come watch this documentary about real history" and then lies about the history.

Besides, I'm sure that Moore is misogynistic.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 04-21-2003, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
seems to me nobody save CNN actually just reports anything anymore.

Well their "Headline news" does a great job of reporting everything that's irrelevant: Madonna's new album; a new crappy movie; woman growing a huge watermelon; blah blah blah.

SlaveNoMore · 04-21-2003, 05:39 PM

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sebastian_dangerfield
Dude, when people's lives are at risk, what CNN did is acceptable. Be a little pragmatic on this one.

Bullshit. They traded secrecy to maintain access in Baghdad - nothign more. They easily could have picked up their reporters and walked. But by not reporting the truth all these years, they passively allowed the spread of lies and misinformation and perhaps helped to inflame anti-americanism throughout the world.

I'm shocked you would give them a pass.

not7yS

Did you just call me Coltrane? · 04-21-2003, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
1) Looks like it, or a chipping wedge.

2) No, a spaniel chasing an orange tennis ball across the lawn.

(bonus q

see above.

Ok, that makes a LITTLE more sense. I guess I've never seen an orange tennis ball, and the shadows are playing tricks with the size of the ball. And I'm only responding b/c this board is lacking in pointless responses today.

SlaveNoMore · 04-21-2003, 05:48 PM

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sebastian_dangerfield
Ever seen Sean Hannity speak?

Why does this have any relevance whatsoever to Michael Moore's "creative liberty"?

not7y(huh?)S

sebastian_dangerfield · 04-21-2003, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Bullshit. They traded secrecy to maintain access in Baghdad - nothign more. They easily could have picked up their reporters and walked. But by not reporting the truth all these years, they passively allowed the spread of lies and misinformation and perhaps helped to inflame anti-americanism throughout the world.

I'm shocked you would give them a pass.

not7yS

Whaaaaaaa? Where exactly do you get the fill to make that mountain from what's an obvious molehill? CNN did what all press orgs do - they buried a few stories to get better access later. I give them a pass for the same reason I give Arnett a pass - If you don't play ball, you'll never get to the real meat of what;s going on. The stories CNN buried were not huge stories the burying of which perpetuated anti-Ameircanism - they were, as I recall, salacious pieces about outrageous shit the Iraqi secret police were doing. How does not reporting about a secret police threat to murder a Jordanian govt official help to foment anti-Americanism? You're painting on a small canvas with a roller here.

I'll tell you what. You admit Fox News is a shitbag network and I'll retract CNN's "pass." But when the bar is so set so goddamn low by the likes of Fox, I find it hard to assail CNN for anything.

tmdiva · 04-21-2003, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

I have two questions:

(1) Is that a putter?!!

That is definitely a putter (don't recall ever seeing a pitching wedge with that kind of jog just above the club head, though admittedly my golf is more than a bit rusty). But hey--at least he's keeping his head down.

tm

sebastian_dangerfield · 04-21-2003, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Why does this have any relevance whatsoever to Michael Moore's "creative liberty"?

not7y(huh?)S

Since we were discussing idiots, I figured I'd take license to post a gripe about another ideological imbecile like Moore.

We need to retain consistency, lest people think the left is the sole bastion of idiots.

Don't think I'm a leftie. I'm not - I have equal contempt for both sides.