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04-28-2004, 01:19 PM
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#2851
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The next Kerry scandal.
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Horseshit. Student deferments were entirely legitimate, and di not require "political connections" to utilize.
In stark contrast to getting a post with the domestic Guard. You think Bush moved up the waiting list because the commaders were his coke-buddies, and not because of Daddy's connections?
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Bush served in the military clinton did not. Did he use connections? Sure. So did Clinton and Kerry. But only Clinton managed to use them so effectively as to escape all military service.
And Clinton did not despite the fact that graduate student deferrals were no longer available. He was eligible for the draft when he graduated from georgetown, yet managed to avoid any induction for a year while in England. And then he joined ROTC--but only long enough to see that he got a high draft number. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/...ns/draft.shtml
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04-28-2004, 01:21 PM
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#2852
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I am beyond a rank!
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The next Kerry scandal.
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Help me out here, Sidd. What are the attacks on his service?
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From Hank: "the amazing thing is, this well-stocked boat had no tube of Bactine. if only there was some topical antibiotic, JFK wouldn't have needed to leave the boat at all for treatment of his combat wounds. with the extra time, he could have advanced our penetration up the Mekong"
From Bilmore: The argument that Kerry's sole reason for going to Vietnam was to advance his political career.
That's just a small sampling. I am not referring to the "atrocities" discussion, which I think is a fair attack because it addresses facts, or factual allegations, of significance. The intentionally false claim that this event was the one that resulted in Kerry's Silver Star (?), and the refusal to acknowledge his actual conduct in combat, especially coming from Repubs who continually laud veterans, is a different matter -- do we only laud veterans who fight for Bush?
The obsession with the "medals" issue is a bit goofy, I think, but it's Kerry's own damn fault for not telling a straight story.
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04-28-2004, 01:24 PM
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#2853
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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The next Kerry scandal.
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
From Hank: "the amazing thing is, this well-stocked boat had no tube of Bactine. if only there was some topical antibiotic, JFK wouldn't have needed to leave the boat at all for treatment of his combat wounds. with the extra time, he could have advanced our penetration up the Mekong"
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fuck man, it was a joke. you related to the
powell family?
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04-28-2004, 01:24 PM
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#2854
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Too Lazy to Google
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Moderator?
Is this a moderator-less forum now that Ty has been deleted or does Penske still post here?
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04-28-2004, 01:25 PM
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#2855
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The next Kerry scandal.
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
From Hank:
From Bilmore:
That's just a small sampling.
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Oh, my mistake. I thought you meant attacks that mattered.
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04-28-2004, 01:28 PM
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#2856
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I am beyond a rank!
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The next Kerry scandal.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
fuck man, it was a joke. you related to the
powell family?
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I'll take it as a joke when you actually say something that indicates respect for the military service of a decorated veteran.
I find it deeply offensive when Americans refuse to do this. It is something I used to see on the left quite frequently -- I remember nearly getting into a fistfight at a march in DC many years ago, after the Grenada invasion, because people were screaming at a US soldier for having come to the march to see what people were saying. Disgusting.
Equally disgusting, but I think far more hypocritical, is when Repubs who repeatedly profess their love and admiration for the military behave in the same way, because the individual who served his country in wartime, by actually going to war, happens to be a political opponent.
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04-28-2004, 01:29 PM
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#2857
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I am beyond a rank!
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The next Kerry scandal.
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Oh, my mistake. I thought you meant attacks that mattered.
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For god's sake, why would I discuss anything that mattered with you people?
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04-28-2004, 01:31 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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The next Kerry scandal.
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I'll take it as a joke when you actually say something that indicates respect for the military service of a decorated veteran.
I find it deeply offensive when Americans refuse to do this. It is something I used to see on the left quite frequently -- I remember nearly getting into a fistfight at a march in DC many years ago, after the Grenada invasion, because people were screaming at a US soldier for having come to the march to see what people were saying. Disgusting.
Equally disgusting, but I think far more hypocritical, is when Repubs who repeatedly profess their love and admiration for the military behave in the same way, because the individual who served his country in wartime, by actually going to war, happens to be a political opponent.
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Cool. How do you extract one line of my post without seeing the rest? I'm impressed, mostly at how your faux indignation fits so nicely into Kerry's "elect me 'cuz I bravely killed soldiers in an unjust war that I believed in deeply for our evil country" theme.
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04-28-2004, 01:32 PM
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Too Lazy to Google
Join Date: Nov 2003
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The next Kerry scandal.
Quote:
Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I'll take it as a joke when you actually say something that indicates respect for the military service of a decorated veteran.
I find it deeply offensive when Americans refuse to do this. It is something I used to see on the left quite frequently -- I remember nearly getting into a fistfight at a march in DC many years ago, after the Grenada invasion, because people were screaming at a US soldier for having come to the march to see what people were saying. Disgusting.
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Man, you must HATE living in SF.
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04-28-2004, 01:33 PM
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No Rank For You!
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Moderator?
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Originally posted by Not Me
Is this a moderator-less forum now that Ty has been deleted or does Penske still post here?
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I'm not dead yet.
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04-28-2004, 01:35 PM
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No Rank For You!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ty-land.
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Moderator?
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Originally posted by Ty, Nee Slothrop
I'm not dead yet.
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In fact, I'm feeling a little better.
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04-28-2004, 01:35 PM
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Too Lazy to Google
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Moderator?
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Originally posted by Ty, Nee Slothrop
I'm not dead yet.
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Are you still the moderator?
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04-28-2004, 01:36 PM
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Registered User
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The next Kerry scandal.
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Originally posted by bilmore
"elect me 'cuz I bravely killed Iraqis in an unjust war that I believed in deeply for our evil country" theme.
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I thought this was Bush's platform?
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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04-28-2004, 01:36 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Moderator?
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Originally posted by Monstrosity
In fact, I'm feeling a little better.
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A day without Monty Python jokes is like a day without sunshine. Thank you.
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04-28-2004, 01:37 PM
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#2865
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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The next Kerry scandal.
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I thought this was Bush's platform?
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Oops. Viet Cong. I'd go back and edit, but that would be wrong.
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