Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by bilmore
I understand that movies aren't true, that cartoons don't really happen, and that Rob wasn't really screwing Laura

So where the hell did Richie come from, Mr. Smarty-Pants? The stork dropped him off at 148 Bonnie Meadow Road?

Seriously, if you have ANY INFORMATION WHATSOEVER on Laura Petrie's sexual proclivities, spill it. I've had the hots for her since 1961, which is ten years before I was born --- she's that hot. Did she ever dump that gangly everyman loser? 'Cause I'd like to check out what's inside of those capris, if you know what I'm sayin'.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by bilmore
He does. I have a special place in my heart for Oliver Stone and Moore and all others who attempt to pass off as non-fiction what they clearly know is fiction. Too many people watch it, figure that if they saw it on a screen it must be true ("well, they couldn't just LIE about it on camera, could they?!") and then forever are fucked up in their knowledge of history - especially when the lying is done to serve an agenda (which throws me about Stone, because JFK's only apparent agenda is "look at me - I'm Ollie Stone - I don't know jack about history"). I understand that movies aren't true, that cartoons don't really happen, and that Rob wasn't really screwing Laura, but I draw a line at a medium that says "come watch this documentary about real history" and then lies about the history.

Besides, I'm sure that Moore is misogynistic.

Wait. Does this mean you actually admit to seeing one of these movies?

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TM

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
CNN did what all press orgs do - they buried a few stories to get better access later.

Problem is, the stories they buried WERE the real meat - what ife was like in Iraq, and what Saddam did to his people routinely. What they buried was the expose to what many people did not accept as true until much later, thanks to CNN's whitewash.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Well, Moore is par for the course. FoxNews is approaching a John Birch meeting, the NYTimes op ed page looks more like a bitter professors' bitchfest, the Post and Daily News will only cover the most intense carnage with no regard to the underlying story, the Wash Post is only interested in sinking politicians to feather its own rep, MSNBC is turning right to steal from Fox, Sy Hersch thinks everybody's a criminal and we're still going to lose the battle of Baghdad, Anne Coulter fancies herself the next Phylis Schlafly, Paul Krugman hates tax cuts but offers no alternative, Bob Herbert is still angry we won the fucking war, Peter Jennings wants to be known as the American talking head of record with the internationalist perspective... seems to me nobody save CNN actually just reports anything anymore. We're coming to a point where everybody will soon be a journalist/editorial/fictionalist. This may not be a bad thing if it stuck to just the media, but the govt has begun to realize that perception makes reality. In 20 years, we may not be sure what the fuck is going on anywhere - we'll have to sift through 80 different websites and then read Reuters, BBC and watch CNN and then come to our own conclusions. Wait a minute... I already do that. Fuck. The swindle's already on and here I am lamenting the obvious. Fuck me. In this regard, taking Moore to task for twisting facts and being dishonest is like handing out speeding tickets at a Nascar event. He's just doing what news entertainment professionals do.

I had a meeting on Thursday with my company's Director of Media Relations. He was explaining to me that he's been in this business for 17 years, and in the last three, he's seen a major shift in pretty much every aspect of media. Reporters, print and television, require stories to be pre-packaged these days. The television and radio people no longer have producers and the paper people are also cutting down on staff. So pretty much in order for a story to be run, the press needs to get the release and have all the parties assembled and ready for interviews. In a town like mine, where there's only one daily newspaper in town, the publicists run the way media is handled.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
In other news, legendary and incomparable jazz great Nina Simone died today at the age of 70.

not7yS

I think that I'm going to go home tonight and have a drink while listenting to Sinner Man. I've loved Nina Simone for years, and I'm sad I never made it to France to see her perform live.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Wait. Does this mean you actually admit to seeing one of these movies?

You mean, publicly admit?

Of course not.

Made the mistake of seeing JFK with some people who knew little of the history. They were dumbfounded at how I just kept getting more and more riled as the movie wore on. ("That never happened! . . . " "He wasn't even in the damn government then. . . .!!??" "No, no, no, no, that's just WRONG!!. . . . .")

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)


2) No, a spaniel chasing an orange tennis ball across the lawn.

(bonus q see above.

I wish we had had one of those tennis balls this weekend. The Lab ruined a perfectly good (and close) game of bocce when he "retrieved" on of the yellow balls and accidently dropped it in the lake.

[ABBAKiss]

GOODNESS:
Last Friday I got trashed and lost my wallet. As anyone who has ever had this happen can attest, this sucks. A few minutes ago, my cabbie called to say he would be dropping my wallet off, along with the money that was in it, in forty-five minutes.

KARMA:
I have been talking with a number of partners this afternoon, and have been gesturing wildly to make my points more effective and persuasive. I just walked down the hall to tell a fellow associate about my good luck with the cab driver. She was very pleased for me, and then motioned for me to look down. The second button on my shirt was unbuttoned, giving everyone a nice shot of my bra and what it is intended to keep supported and under control. Cripes. I wonder how long it has been like that.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Someone was telling me about www.cameltoe.com. I've never visited the site (nor will I at work), but apparently there are hats and t-shirts on sale there with their signature "Know The Toe" slogan.

I'm just passing this along for entertainment purposes...I hope no one is offended...I thought the slogan was...well...hilarious.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I wonder how long it has been like that.

At what point in the day did you start winning your arguments?

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan In a town like mine, where there's only one daily newspaper in town, the publicists run the way media is handled.

The Post sucked, but the Chonicle is a joke - do they have any of their own reporters or do they just cut and paste little bits of other papers' articles and hope no one notices? Oh, and when they actually venture to report something, I like how they just change peoples' quotes at will - Mr. Lex has been misquoted several times - scary what they might do with important-people quotes. When the Enron and other local stories are coming from other news services, you know the end is near.

-TL

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I wish we had had one of those tennis balls this weekend. The Lab ruined a perfectly good (and close) game of bocce when he "retrieved" on of the yellow balls and accidently dropped it in the lake.

You can have some, and support breast cancer research at the same time!

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by TexLex
The Post sucked, but the Chonicle is a joke - do they have any of their own reporters or do they just cut and paste little bits of other papers' articles and hope no one notices? Oh, and when they actually venture to report something, I like how they just change peoples' quotes at will - Mr. Lex has been misquoted several times - scary what they might do with important-people quotes. When the Enron and other local stories are coming from other news services, you know the end is near.

-TL

My favorite indication on how very bad the Chronicle is was during the anit-trust trial in San Francisco two years ago. The Hearst people were trying to buy the San Francisco Chronicle and also run the Examiner. The Hearst people were testifying about the Houston Chronicle and the following exchange took place:

Originally posted by the Houston Press on June 15, 2000.
Hearst Chief Executive Officer Frank Bennack was testifying on the proposed sale when plaintiff's lawyer Joseph Alioto asked him about the Hearst chain's other papers.

"Are any of those newspapers world-class newspapers?" he asked.

"We believe that the Houston Chronicle is perhaps closest to that characterization of our newspapers, and it's getting better, and we're hopefully making it better," Bennack testified. (Under oath, no less.)

"Has it reached that level yet?" Alioto continued.

"I'm not satisfied that it has, no," replied Bennack, thereby probably escaping any perjury prosecution.

Edited because eye cannot spell.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I wish we had had one of those tennis balls this weekend. The Lab ruined a perfectly good (and close) game of bocce when he "retrieved" on of the yellow balls and accidently dropped it in the lake.

I am an unabashed fan of bocce and the entire family of bocce-sports, of which curling is probably the most popular, but which also includes lawn-bowling and the little known "bocce frisbee."

The biggest problem with bocce frisbee, by the way, is that if played on grass, it's damn hard (but not impossible) to dioslodge a well placed frisbee.

str8

P.S. The Hollywood Reporter called FooFighters and Transplants a "Near-perfect concert." Go see them when they come to your town.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
I am an unabashed fan of bocce and the entire family of bocce-sports, of which curling is probably the most popular, but which also includes lawn-bowling and the little known "bocce frisbee."

The biggest problem with bocce frisbee, by the way, is that if played on grass, it's damn hard (but not impossible) to dioslodge a well placed frisbee.

str8

P.S. The Hollywood Reporter called FooFighters and Transplants a "Near-perfect concert." Go see them when they come to your town.

When we discovered that bocce was best played with a couple of pitchers of sangria and a lot of arguing, we realized that it was the perfect game for the family. There were 30 of us involved in the game this time, and the 1 1/2 year old's random movement of the balls added an extra level of uncertainty to the game. She'd run on the field, pick up a ball, put it down again when a half dozen adults started motioning to her and waving their arms. Then everyone'd have to look and see how much the game had changed before and after her involvement. At one point we were using a plastic easter egg as the pallino, because she'd run off with the orange pallino we'd been using. Then the lab showed up, retrieved about seven different throws, hijacked one of the yellow balls, and that was the end of the game. We are hopeful that we can con him into retrieving it from the lake.