Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck. - Page 193

sebastian_dangerfield · 10-13-2004, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
In some ways, these people annoy me less. If someone genuinely believes a fetus is a life and ending it is murder, then I think it's understandable they might also believe the life shouldn't be snuffed out due to someone having been raped. It's the ones who attempt to speak from anywhere but the heart and try to spin their beliefs in terms of federalism or other such concepts that it gets really tortured.

We'd be a lot better off in this country if people stopped speaking with their "hearts" and started speaking with brains. I'm sick of having to listen to people's "beliefs". Every idiot has a "belief" and thinks its as valid as science these days.

taxwonk · 10-13-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Can't disagree with any of that. Having said that, though, does that mean we shouldn't improve?

I'm all in favor of improving. I'm just flummoxed at the politics, logistics, and the cost.

Say_hello_for_me · 10-13-2004, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
Maybe Hello can tell us what's wrong with this.

The problem is that Kerry isn't president. When Kerry is President, him, Chicac and Schroeder will put an end to this sort of injustice.

dtb · 10-13-2004, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
The problem is that Kerry isn't president. When Kerry is President, him, Chicac and Schroeder will put an end to this sort of injustice.

Well then, I guess he's my guy!

baltassoc · 10-13-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
And they are furry.* Yuck.

*based on sample size of one (1) guy in college.

I once lived next to a house full of Basque exchange students, who rotated in and out. I can up your sample size to about 12, and they were all furry. Even the women.

Say_hello_for_me · 10-13-2004, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Well it worked in the war on drugs.

No, as I've explained numerous times here to you, the reason that we don't win the war on Drugs is because we didn't declare war on you. Which is okay with you (Duh!). Do you cry for the kids in the poor neighborhoods racking up felonies? Noooo, just as long as nobody's coming after you with those charges, its all fun and games. Mmm, hmm. Like you have a clue about the war on drugs.

ltl/fb · 10-13-2004, 04:11 PM

shfm: "George Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed. Oh, he gets high, all right, but not from narcotics" -- is this a reference to his preference for coke and alcohol? Is speed even a narcotic? Aren't narcotics things that make you sleepy? Ditto on coke. Maybe it is just referring to his cocaine habit.

Say_hello_for_me · 10-13-2004, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
In some ways, these people annoy me less. If someone genuinely believes a fetus is a life and ending it is murder, then I think it's understandable they might also believe the life shouldn't be snuffed out due to someone having been raped. It's the ones who attempt to speak from anywhere but the heart and try to spin their beliefs in terms of federalism or other such concepts that it gets really tortured.

Yeah, because praying is gonna get rid of a hijacked judiciary. The two aren't exactly incompatible, but Roe's not gone without federalism.

taxwonk · 10-13-2004, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
What an excuse to do nothing or to let sanctions go on for so damn long. Because bad stuff is all over the place and Gee it's so hard to draw lines. You modern day liberals are such pussies.

How NICE of you to not disagree with that notion. Pretty sad that you even have to qualify that statement with so many words.

Okay, Diane. Tell me. In fact, enlighten ALL of us. Explain to me how the US is going to fix the whole fucking world. Perhaps you could start by telling us all where you're going to find the tens of millions of troops it will take to invade the whole fucking world? Or would you rather tell me how much higher you are willing to see your tax bill go to pay for those troops and their supplies?

Or would you rather tackle the question of how the US suddenly dropping Navy Seals into Cyprus, Indonesia, East Timor, and Haiti, while the Special Forces and Marineas handle Turkey, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Chad, the Sudan, and the rest of Africa isn't going to result in North Korea, Russia, Pakistan, India, etc. into letting their nukes fly before we take them out too?

How many innocent women, children, and others are you going to find acceptable as collateral casualties in all this? Oh, and while you're at it, if we're shooting up the whole fucking globe, how are we going to keep the folks at home safe and secure? What about the economy when we can't export any good and services because we're too busy killiing everynbody and destroying their economies?

Pussy, indeed. Stupid fucking assclown.

Say_hello_for_me · 10-13-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
shfm: "George Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed. Oh, he gets high, all right, but not from narcotics" -- is this a reference to his preference for coke and alcohol? Is speed even a narcotic? Aren't narcotics things that make you sleepy? Ditto on coke. Maybe it is just referring to his cocaine habit.

Explained: This was actually a quote from a Texas Air National Guard Press Release during that era.

ltl/fb · 10-13-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Yeah, because praying is gonna get rid of a hijacked judiciary. The two aren't exactly incompatible, but Roe's not gone without federalism.

Roe would be gone if there were a constitutional amendment banning abortion, and that's not federalistic.

Not Me · 10-13-2004, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
In Nigeria they would stone the woman to death for fornication, but only after she gives birth. (saw the link yesterday-its true).

and where did they get that idea from?

Tyrone Slothrop · 10-13-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
Okay, Diane. Tell me. In fact, enlighten ALL of us. Explain to me how the US is going to fix the whole fucking world. Perhaps you could start by telling us all where you're going to find the tens of millions of troops it will take to invade the whole fucking world? Or would you rather tell me how much higher you are willing to see your tax bill go to pay for those troops and their supplies?

Or would you rather tackle the question of how the US suddenly dropping Navy Seals into Cyprus, Indonesia, East Timor, and Haiti, while the Special Forces and Marineas handle Turkey, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Chad, the Sudan, and the rest of Africa isn't going to result in North Korea, Russia, Pakistan, India, etc. into letting their nukes fly before we take them out too?

How many innocent women, children, and others are you going to find acceptable as collateral casualties in all this? Oh, and while you're at it, if we're shooting up the whole fucking globe, how are we going to keep the folks at home safe and secure? What about the economy when we can't export any good and services because we're too busy killiing everynbody and destroying their economies?

Pussy, indeed. Stupid fucking assclown.

You forgot Sierra Leone.

(spree: tough stuff to read)

Not Me · 10-13-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Do you cry for the kids in the poor neighborhoods racking up felonies?

I do. I think it is awful. Most of them have substance abuse problems, which is a genetically-based mental illness.

Hank Chinaski · 10-13-2004, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
I do. I think it is awful. Most of them have substance abuse problems, which is a genetically-based mental illness.

Are you sure its genetic instead of learned? I've read of polygamist families where the negative character traits of the several "moms" can cross to the children of the others.