Politics As Usual

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
I anxiously await Ty's use of this impressive bio/respected publication defense the next time someone bags on Josh Marshall.

You misapprehend the rationale of said bagging, which is more by way of performance art than signifying anything.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I think even the lefties should now agree that it's a good thing we stole the election, don't you think?

When you see what Judge Bork has been up to lately, do you think, thank God for Ted Kennedy or that raving wacko would be on the high bench, or do you think, how said that being borked left him a shattered and broken man?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
When you see what Judge Bork has been up to lately, do you think, thank God for Ted Kennedy

My turn. When you see what Teddy K. has been up to lately, do you think, thank God for Mary Jo, RIP.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

From Max Boot (!), a veteran of the WSJ editorial page:

• The mystery of Clinton is that he was an essentially conservative president — perhaps the most conservative Democrat in the White House since Grover Cleveland — and yet he was loathed by conservatives. So much so that he was accused of all sorts of awful things he didn't actually do, from murdering Vince Foster to being in cahoots with the Chinese. I don't blame Clinton for getting a tad upset about the nutty accusations tossed his way and for not being able to figure out what a good ole boy with a saxophone and a smile had ever done to justify such venom.
  
  I'm not sure I can explain it either....

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I think even the lefties should now agree that it's a good thing we stole the election, don't you think?

efs

The conservatives' synchronized slapping of backs-of-the-hand-to-the-forehead is impressive as an operatic move, but amounts to dogshit as an evaluation of what Gore would've done, or would've been like, if he were still in office. As you guys so amply note, he's not.

Gore's simply acting as an attack dog for Kerry. Since he's no longer in office, and not running for office, he's free to go out there and argue things that Kerry politically can't or won't.

Think of it as Gore being kind of a Newt Gingrich. Except that Gore's not saying, for example, either "Woody Allen having non-incest with a non-daughter to whom he was a non-father because they were a non-family fits the [Republican] platform perfectly," or "I think the mother killing her two children in South Carolina vividly reminds every American how sick the society is getting and how much we have to have change. I think people want to change and the only way you get change is to vote [Democratic]."

Oh, yeah. And he's not in office at the time, like Gingrich was.

Gattigap

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
My turn. When you see what Teddy K. has been up to lately, do you think, thank God for Mary Jo, RIP.

My main source for news on Teddy Kennedy is the conservatives who rave about him here, so you can imagine that I'm not really up to date on what he's been up to, NTTAWWT. Your turn.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
When you see what Judge Bork has been up to lately, do you think, thank God for Ted Kennedy or that raving wacko would be on the high bench, or do you think, how said that being borked left him a shattered and broken man?

I'm not sure to what you are referring, but are you saying that Gore was Bushed?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Gattigap
The conservatives' synchronized slapping of backs-of-the-hand-to-the-forehead is impressive as an operatic move, but amounts to dogshit as an evaluation of what Gore would've done, or would've been like, if he were still in office. As you guys so amply note, he's not.

Gore's simply acting as an attack dog for Kerry. Since he's no longer in office, and not running for office, he's free to go out there and argue things that Kerry politically can't or won't.

Think of it as Gore being kind of a Newt Gingrich. Except that Gore's not saying, for example, either "Woody Allen having non-incest with a non-daughter to whom he was a non-father because they were a non-family fits the [Republican] platform perfectly," or "I think the mother killing her two children in South Carolina vividly reminds every American how sick the society is getting and how much we have to have change. I think people want to change and the only way you get change is to vote [Democratic]."

Oh, yeah. And he's not in office at the time, like Gingrich was.

Gattigap

Dude, Gore is taking it to a whole new stratosphere. The guy is either seriously out of his mind, or Kerry has threatened to release the naked pictures of him with a young boy.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Seriously, does anybody know what happened to Gore? I never really liked him, but as VP he struct me as at least sane and rational (other than his Earth day frolicks). Any explanations?

He was a democrat who got mugged.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I'm not sure to what you are referring, but are you saying that Gore was Bushed?

I would be saying that he was Gored, but I wasn't referring to how he lost out on the job.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Seriously, does anybody know what happened to Gore?

According to numerous bumper stickers in my neighborhood, he is up for reelection this year.

[SlaveNoMore]

Hank Chinaski
My turn. When you see what Teddy K. has been up to lately, do you think, thank God for Mary Jo, RIP.

When I see Ted, I am often reminded of both Lee Harvey Oswald and Sirhan Sirhan, and of Spock telling Kirk as he lay dying of radiation poisoning, "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. or the one."*

* I am not advocating the assassination of the senior Senator from MA. I am, however, preferring he eat his cheeseburgers fried and not grilled.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

"Federal investigators questioned President Bush for more than an hour Thursday as the investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's name reached into the Oval Office.

"The president was interviewed for 70 minutes by U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the head of the Justice Department investigation, and by members of his team. The only other person in the room was Jim Sharp, a private trial lawyer and former federal prosecutor hired by Bush, said White House press secretary Scott McClellan.

"'The leaking of classified information is a very serious matter,' McClellan said, adding that the president repeatedly has said he wants his administration to cooperate with the investigation. "No one wants to get to the bottom of this matter more than the president of the United States," the spokesman said.

"Investigators want to know who leaked the name of Valerie Plame, an undercover CIA operative, to syndicated columnist Robert Novak last July. Disclosure of an undercover officer's identity can be a federal crime."



What a waste of the President's time. Wouldn't it be better for him and the country if he just told senior staff that he wants the person who outed Plame to 'fess up?

eta: The story continues to add that it's not clear whether he was under oath, so my subject line is perhaps inaccurate.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Dude, Gore is taking it to a whole new stratosphere. The guy is either seriously out of his mind, or Kerry has threatened to release the naked pictures of him with a young boy.

This provides an interesting opportunity to examine the prospect of whether Gore has really exceeded the nuttitness of a then-current Speaker of the House actually alleging that his opponents are the Party of Incest and the Party of Child Killers, but let's put that aside for a moment.

What in this speech has convinced you that he's off to the loony bin? If it's the stuff at the end about the Administration's secrecy, pulling stuff off of websites, etc., I'll agree with you that it was irrelevant to the main point of the speech, too conspiratorial, mock-able enough that it distracts from one's main point, and generally sounds a bit nutty.

Was that it? Or was it the point that he uttered the words "Bush" and "lied", which qualifies him, without passing GO and without collecting $200, to the Land of the Crackpots?

Gattigap

[SlaveNoMore]

Shape Shifter
That's a lot of text for late afternoon. Can you just quote some of the crazy parts?

"....But if George Washington could see....

What would Thomas Jefferson think....

What would Benjamin Franklin think ....

How long would it take James Madison ...."

Thank god his handlers misplaced pages 4-8, lest we'd all now know what Millard Fillmore, John Tyler and US Grant would have thought about the Middle East.