A Forum for Grinches and Ho-Ho-Hoes

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

It is good to know how many people on the board practice the withdrawl method.

I guess I am not the only Catholic here.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Ummm, they found a mamouth frozen in ice- that's pretty good proof that natural selection helps things evolve- i've never said otherwise. All i've ever said is that the people here who take the attitude they are more educated than creationists have a problem- the problem is that their story requires "faith" and so for most of them they are no better than those they mock. I really can't do this anymore- but on the whole question of "how did life on earth start?" the only educated response is "Ummmm I dunno."

I'm pretty sure that there was a Friends episode based on this premise. I never realized until this moment that Hank=Phoebe.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Ummm, they found a mamouth frozen in ice- that's pretty good proof that natural selection helps things evolve- i've never said otherwise. All i've ever said is that the people here who take the attitude they are more educated than creationists have a problem- the problem is that their story requires "faith" and so for most of them they are no better than those they mock. I really can't do this anymore- but on the whole question of "how did life on earth start?" the only educated response is "Ummmm I dunno."

I don't think any posters have a problem with creationists. They have a problem with creationists trying to impose their views on science taught in public schools.

P.S. Good job on the Re: line.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by taxwonk
So.... How do upright, moral, Christian conservative folk like Dick Cheney and Alan Keyes explain their daughters? Cheney is acknowledged as having become more tolerant of gays than he was in the past since Mary came out. However, if the conservative crowd is right, then how could he have possibly raised hisself a queer to begin with?

Discuss.

If I were female and Cheney was the male figure in my life, I'd learn to eat pussy too.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
For the record: I realize I came to this late but Evolution is a fact. It has been observed, recorded and catalogued in real time. Whether or not all life on earth came from one replicating nucleic acid strand a few billion years ago before we had an oxygen and nitrogen atmosphere is a theory. A theory supported by strong evidence but still a theory.

Uh-oh. Next he's going to talk about Section 8.

(Spanky, it's best to let right-wing dogs lie.)

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
If I were female and Cheney was the male figure in my life, I'd learn to eat pussy too.

So you believe hetero people grow up wanting to fuck their parents? What sex were your kids again?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Nice- insipid and w/o any tie to science, but good try!

Hank -- please see if you can answer this seriously, even intelligently.

If evolution has no basis in science, as you seem to contend, why do so many scientists seem to accept it? Is everyone but you and the Christian right driven by ideology?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
So you believe hetero people grow up wanting to fuck their parents? What sex were your kids again?

Well, at least one poster spent Valentine's evening with his mom. Freud was right!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I don't think any posters have a problem with creationists. They have a problem with creationists trying to impose their views on science taught in public schools.

P.S. Good job on the Re: line.

None of you are qualified to have any position on the topic- that you all think you do while simply regurgitating shit you've read w/o understanding is irritating.

[Someone's Evil Twin]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
So you believe hetero people grow up wanting to fuck their parents? What sex were your kids again?

Postio ad absurdum.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Watchtower
Just remember, God does not play dice with the universe.

He generally plays dice with Buddha, and cards with Mohammed every Wednesday.

Penske, it kind of wigs me out when your socks reply to each other.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
So you believe hetero people grow up wanting to fuck their parents? What sex were your kids again?

Try reading the post again, this time more slowly and without the blood-soaked haze that seems to form in your eyes whenever you see my name.

Generally, a father is the first male figure in any child's life. That doesn't mean his daughter wants to fuck him, that means that he is the first male figure in the child's life and will inform that child's view of men for some time -- an effect that will lessen with time and circumstance but that will certainly exist.

Put differently, go fuck yourself. You can spout your right-wing shit all day for all I care, but leave my kids out of your spew.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
None of you are qualified to have any position on the topic- that you all think you do while simply regurgitating shit you've read w/o understanding is irritating.

I don't have to hold a degree in physics to believe that the gravitational pull between 2 bodies is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. I don't have to conduct the experiments anew because they have already been conducted by scientists and vetted by other scientists. I can see your point somewhat on it being a choice in faith - faith in science or faith in religion. However, this sort of argument should have been put to rest with Galileo's excommunicated soul. Let the scientists teach science. The kids have already heard that "created in 7 days" shit in Sunday school.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Hank -- please see if you can answer this seriously, even intelligently.

If evolution has no basis in science, as you seem to contend, why do so many scientists seem to accept it? Is everyone but you and the Christian right driven by ideology?

My rant started with someone taking a potshot at another poster who claimed to be a creationist- the potshoter (AG maybe?) took a superior attitude like he KNEW the creationist was full of shit- So I took it upon myself to take him down a peg- since then I'm stuck with doing this over and over---

when most people say evolution they mean natural selection as a way of changing species plus some scientific basis to the beginnings of life (ie god didn't do it). You really can't intelligently argue that NS causes species to evolve, and that is what has been proven to the extent any part of evolution can be proven- I accept this part- okay- bob moths et al.

But on the "how did things start" part there are huge gaps- how did the first cell start? there are at least theories on this, although most people in ths field will tell you its a billion to one shot- okay the world has been around for billions of years so that's possible.

But there are other parts where I can't even find a theory- how did those single celled animals become multi- celled? How did an organism with a few cells develop organ systems? Early organisms simply split- how did sexual reproduction come from that?

sidd- google your ass off you'll not find any explaination for any of that. My only point ever has been don't be smug when someone doesn't believe in your science because your science is incomplete.

Maybe science started it- maybe an intergallactic cruise ship emptied it waste here and we sprung from that or maybe it was "god."

I don't know and I only pick on people who think they do when they pick on others who think they do, but different.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by megaloman
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Of course Evolution is real. No duh! But what’s also real is that God created Evolution.

The creationist/evolution debate is nothing new, just the typical secular humanist morally relativistic crap spouted by the lefties. The whole discussion is less about science versus faith than it is about Marxist indoctrination politics that the petulant radical contrarians have been promulgating since the days of Babylon’s glory, passed on through the ancient Greeks and now regurgitated as “high science”. That history of this debate richly illustrates that the left wing could care less about what is real, their only concern is unbridled power and authority over the masses and private property rights. Faith filled Christians Republicans are a blockade to the left’s oppression of Freedom and thus the constant attack on religion from the intellectual elite on the Coasts.

Most of these liberals are so angry (because in their soul they know that they are doomed to hell) that it is really not worth the time to engage the debate over evolution with them. God will settle it soon enough.

Jerry Falwell meets Dennis Miller?