Making Baby Jesus Cry

[Spanky]

Did anyone see that West Wing where Rob Lowe was questioning the potential Supreme Court nominee about enumerated rights.

He said that someone in the Georgia legislature voted against the Bill of rights (when the amendment was put to the Georgia legislature for a vote) claiming that if the rights were written down that some idiot would later claim that the rights written down were the only ones that existed.

Anyone know if this is true. Anyone have the real quote?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Spanky
Did anyone see that West Wing where Rob Lowe was questioning the potential Supreme Court nominee about enumerated rights.

He said that someone in the Georgia legislature voted against the Bill of rights (when the amendment was put to the Georgia legislature for a vote) claiming that if the rights were written down that some idiot would later claim that the rights written down were the only ones that existed.

Anyone know if this is true. Anyone have the real quote?

Pretty sure that was the justification for the 9th amendment.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Spanky
Did anyone see that West Wing where Rob Lowe was questioning the potential Supreme Court nominee about enumerated rights.

He said that someone in the Georgia legislature voted against the Bill of rights (when the amendment was put to the Georgia legislature for a vote) claiming that if the rights were written down that some idiot would later claim that the rights written down were the only ones that existed.

Anyone know if this is true. Anyone have the real quote?

Here's a cite to start your research. I think it's in the second season.

[Nut Case, Sensitive]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Speaking of worthwhile charities at this time in light of Hurricane Katrina, here's one that helps some of our friends that generally end up at the back of the line: www.noahswish.org

Always thinking of me!

The families' safe, but two days without the French Quarter have been tough. And, I'm out of Nuts!

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Spanky
I don't know why, but the American public is the best voting public in the world. While other countrys populations got swept up by socialism, fascism, communism, statism, Gaullism etc. Americans have always stuck to their principles of free markets, free people and limited government. They have never bought into this other B.S.

That is why we have the strongest economy in the world, one of the highest per capita incomes, and why the consumers purchasing power is so strong here.

Country stars and NASCAR stars seem to have this same instincts. Something happens to people when they move to Hollywood or New York. They seem to forget what makes America special and start looking to other countrys as if they have got it better.

No one has got it better. That is why everyone wants to live here.

This is the best country in the world, and its capital - the microcosm of all elements which make the country so great - is NYC.

What makes America special isn't that shit celebrated by NASCAR dads. Thats regressive Southern refighting of the Civil War. Its horseshit - pining for a make believe culture that never was.

How on Earth are NYC and LA anti-free markets? Those are where the people who run the markets, and pay the taxes which subsidize the bible belt trash who call them commies, live and work.

I see nothing "special" about the backward shit half this country seems to want to run toward. What I see are scared stupid shits who'd rather be comfortable believing ignorant myths of religion and "might makes right" instead of sitting down and thinking about how to actually solve a problem. I see a lot of self-serving degenerates cramming bullshit down the open pieholes of legions of adoring ignoramuses on Fox News every nite.

Country music? Nascar? Thats product, not culture.

Glorious fucking revolution... A dry drunk and a dozen draft dodgers driving us into the 21st century with Irving Kristol's piece of shit playbook. Yeh, now... why shouldn't we be cynical?

[Nut Case, Sensitive]

Originally posted by Spanky
Did anyone see that West Wing where Rob Lowe was questioning the potential Supreme Court nominee about enumerated rights.

He said that someone in the Georgia legislature voted against the Bill of rights (when the amendment was put to the Georgia legislature for a vote) claiming that if the rights were written down that some idiot would later claim that the rights written down were the only ones that existed.

Anyone know if this is true. Anyone have the real quote?

Notable Nut Alexander Hamilton (Federalist #84):

I go further, and affirm that bills of rights, in the sense and to the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be NUTS! They would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed? I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power. They might urge with a semblance of reason, that the Constitution ought not to be charged with the absurdity of providing against the abuse of an authority which was not given, and that the provision against restraining the liberty of the press afforded a clear implication, that a power to prescribe proper regulations concerning it was intended to be vested in the national government. This may serve as a specimen of the numerous handles which would be given to the doctrine of constructive powers, by the indulgence of an injudicious zeal for bills of rights.

Those Federalist Nuts!

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[Ty@50]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This is the best country in the world, and its capital - the microcosm of all elements which make the country so great - is NYC.

What makes America special isn't that shit celebrated by NASCAR dads. Thats regressive Southern refighting of the Civil War. Its horseshit - pining for a make believe culture that never was.

How on Earth are NYC and LA anti-free markets? Those are where the people who run the markets, and pay the taxes which subsidize the bible belt trash who call them commies, live and work.

I see nothing "special" about the backward shit half this country seems to want to run toward. What I see are scared stupid shits who'd rather be comfortable believing ignorant myths of religion and "might makes right" instead of sitting down and thinking about how to actually solve a problem. I see a lot of self-serving degenerates cramming bullshit down the open pieholes of legions of adoring ignoramuses on Fox News every nite.

Country music? Nascar? Thats product, not culture.

Glorious fucking revolution... A dry drunk and a dozen draft dodgers driving us into the 21st century with Irving Kristol's piece of shit playbook. Yeh, now... why shouldn't we be cynical?

I should mention that in a few years sebastian slips up and mentions as an aside, in a post on another topic, that he has never been to a NASCAR event.

Originally posted by Ty@50
I should mention that in a few years sebastian slips up and mentions as an aside, in a post on another topic, that he has never been to a NASCAR event.

Yes, I can see how that would discredit someone entirely. I'm buying tickets for Brooks & Dunne right now so that everyone will start taking my views more seriously.

[Ty@50]

Originally posted by ironweed
Yes, I can see how that would discredit someone entirely. I'm buying tickets for Brooks & Dunne right now so that everyone will start taking my views more seriously.

I'm holding the 2008 "Rankings of Posters" that loberry put out. Given how low you were ranked, you might want to just pass on the effort. If you lived on Bourbon Street today would you be worried about cutting the lawn?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield

How on Earth are NYC and LA anti-free markets? Those are where the people who run the markets, and pay the taxes which subsidize the bible belt trash who call them commies, live and work.

In the markets of LA and NYC, which are the center of capitalism, is also where you have people that appreciate free markets. It is the rest of the people that live off the fat of the land, not producing anything but "art for arts sake", and reams of written documents that constantly rail about how screwed up this country is, and it is these people that only exist because our country is so productive. And New York and LA do not produce much of anything. All the production is done outside of these cities. It is the downtowns that play with the money that is produced elsewhere. Of course these markets are important, but don't delude yourself for one minute that these downtown areas are "producing" something that the rest of the country lives off of. You got it directly backwards.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield I see nothing "special" about the backward shit half this country seems to want to run toward. What I see are scared stupid shits who'd rather be comfortable believing ignorant myths of religion and "might makes right" instead of sitting down and thinking about how to actually solve a problem. I see a lot of self-serving degenerates cramming bullshit down the open pieholes of legions of adoring ignoramuses on Fox News every nite.

Country music? Nascar? Thats product, not culture.

I never mentioned anything about culture. You like many idiots in this country confuse culture with something important. Culture is window dressing. It is nice to have nice window dressing, but if you lose it is no big deal. You sound like one of those idiot beauty contestants who wants to unite the world through fashion.

You only get culture when you have an economy that can afford one. In all the countrys I have lived in the average people just don't get it. They think the US is so successful because it "exploits" other countrys. People in this country understand that this country excels because people and the markets are free. You may look down their noses at them, but trust me, if you are going to live in a democracy, it is much better having these people choose your government than the population of any other country. Do you want the electorate of France or Romania to choose your government? Like a typical spoiled brat, you have no idea how good you have it.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Glorious fucking revolution... A dry drunk and a dozen draft dodgers driving us into the 21st century with Irving Kristol's piece of shit playbook. Yeh, now... why shouldn't we be cynical?

Luckily the American public, and not you, is in charge of who runs this country.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Ty@50
I'm holding the 2008 "Rankings of Posters" that loberry put out. Given how low you were ranked, you might want to just pass on the effort. If you lived on Bourbon Street today would you be worried about cutting the lawn?

Did I ever overtake NFH in the ratings?

Originally posted by Spanky
You only get culture when you have an economy that can afford one.

You cannot keep outdoing yourself like this. I thought the "everyone wants to live here" one was tops, but this is better.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Ty@50
I should mention that in a few years sebastian slips up and mentions as an aside, in a post on another topic, that he has never been to a NASCAR event.

I have never been to a NASCAR event. I have also never been to a professional wrestling match. Nor have I ever wrestled with a greased pig, or paid for the privilege of kissing a pretty girl in a booth at a county fair.

I have, however, attended an Indy 500. Never in my life, at any concert or air show or toddler birthday party, have my ears bled like they did that day. Those suckers are L-O-U-D.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by ironweed
You cannot keep outdoing yourself like this. I thought the "everyone wants to live here" one was tops, but this is better.

It counts towards the total doesn't it if they mainly want to live here temporarily in order to blow us up?