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07-19-2004, 09:18 PM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Lemme guess. This is a smear campaign of the VRWC
AP: Clinton Adviser Probed in Terror Memos
By JOHN SOLOMON
WASHINGTON - President Clinton (news - web sites)'s national security adviser, Sandy Berger, is the focus of a criminal investigation after admitting he removed highly classified terrorism documents from a secure reading room during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings, The Associated Press has learned.
Berger's home and office were searched earlier this year by FBI agents armed with warrants. Some drafts of a sensitive after-action report on the Clinton administration's handling of al-Qaida terror threats during the December 1999 millennium celebration are still missing.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1_berger_probe
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07-19-2004, 09:23 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Lemme guess. This is a smear campaign of the VRWC
Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
AP: Clinton Adviser Probed in Terror Memos
By JOHN SOLOMON
WASHINGTON - President Clinton (news - web sites)'s national security adviser, Sandy Berger, is the focus of a criminal investigation after admitting he removed highly classified terrorism documents from a secure reading room during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings, The Associated Press has learned.
Berger's home and office were searched earlier this year by FBI agents armed with warrants. Some drafts of a sensitive after-action report on the Clinton administration's handling of al-Qaida terror threats during the December 1999 millennium celebration are still missing.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1_berger_probe
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Yeah, "smear" is a good word.
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07-19-2004, 09:27 PM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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your illiberal media
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Tyrone Slothrop
Radio & TV -- from which most people get their news -- give more money to Republicans than Democrats:
![](http://jackotoole.net/misc/tv-radio-dollars.gif)
Carry on.
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And the journalists that write the stuff you read haven't given a dime to the Bush Campaign.
http://www.mpetrelis.blogspot.com/20...s_archive.html
Tally ho
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07-19-2004, 09:29 PM
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I'm getting there!
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 42
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BUSH LIES YOU REPUKELICAN MFs!
Today I sat back and reviewed the chronology of the swampdive our country has taken in less than 3 years.
In the days after 9-11, W and the Christian right browbeat Americans to choose:
We could join the right on its crusade to take preemptive action or we were one with the terrorists.
And yet we took no preemptive action against the illegitimate military state of Pakistan.
A violator of human rights that has the WMDs; aided and abetted the Taliban; aided and abetted al Qaeda; and sold nukes to the North Koreans.
Instead W and the wingnuts took off on follies to Afghanistan and Iraq and created the false illusion that anyone who resisted their imperialistic designs on the Arabs were docile camels with their heads stuck in the sand.
To resist…nay…..protest was to be faithless to the Republican's factory of lies.
”Are you a god-fearing Christian or one of them there Islamic terrorists????” This is what counter-protesting fascists shouted when I marched in Washington Sqaure park and then later in Trafalgar Square to protest the torture of innocents at Abu Grabe.
Of course, if you gave the “wrong” answer these jackboots will invoke the imagery of the people jumping out of the WTC, until you break down and agree with them.
But what about the innocent children in Palestine?
What about Rachel Corrie?
The W-Blair coalition of imperialism has a lot of blood on its hands. More bodies than OBL.
And now it looks like W is gunning for Iran, god forbid. And the crystal ball says if we allow this reelection then 18 months from now when the country mourns another 1000 of its finest souls lost in battle that Cheney and Rumsfield will be lauding W as the savior of Iran. They will tell us Dick Clarke was wrong and the new CIA guy too. The crazy mullahs were bad man who killed kurds or whomever and lied to the inspectors about WMDs.
The Neo-cons will call for all to hail down to Bush and the collaborators in Congress might second guess, but not before there are more dead, with the worst being the Senate with 60 clones of W's horse, Incitatus, sitting in the well, laughing at Cheney’s profandity.
I pray to God that the American public is not so deluded as to buy this cool-aid fruit punch but reading this board makes me cynical. I find it amazing how the so-called educated human intellect can work to fool itself into believing that anything which some pied piper claims is threatening, is. I believe Jung called this the Stockholm syndrome.
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07-19-2004, 09:32 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,050
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your illiberal media
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And the journalists that write the stuff you read haven't given a dime to the Bush Campaign.
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It doesn't look like he was looking for people who write for Popular Mechanics and Bugle: The Journal of the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation.
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07-19-2004, 09:34 PM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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your illiberal media
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Tyrone Slothrop
It doesn't look like he was looking for people who write for Popular Mechanics and Bugle: The Journal of the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation.
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Two fine periodicals, I might add.
Indeed! -- t.s.
Last edited by Tyrone Slothrop; 07-19-2004 at 09:39 PM..
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07-19-2004, 09:36 PM
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Vietnam Vet (and senator)
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Better Car than Yours!!!!
Posts: 27
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BUSH LIES YOU REPUKELICAN MFs!
Quote:
captain marvelous
Today I sat back and reviewed the chronology of the swampdive our country has taken in less than 3 years.
In the days after 9-11, W and the Christian right browbeat Americans to choose:
We could join the right on its crusade to take preemptive action or we were one with the terrorists.
And yet we took no preemptive action against the illegitimate military state of Pakistan.
A violator of human rights that has the WMDs; aided and abetted the Taliban; aided and abetted al Qaeda; and sold nukes to the North Koreans.
Instead W and the wingnuts took off on follies to Afghanistan and Iraq and created the false illusion that anyone who resisted their imperialistic designs on the Arabs were docile camels with their heads stuck in the sand.
To resist…nay…..protest was to be faithless to the Republican's factory of lies.
”Are you a god-fearing Christian or one of them there Islamic terrorists????” This is what counter-protesting fascists shouted when I marched in Washington Sqaure park and then later in Trafalgar Square to protest the torture of innocents at Abu Grabe.
Of course, if you gave the “wrong” answer these jackboots will invoke the imagery of the people jumping out of the WTC, until you break down and agree with them.
But what about the innocent children in Palestine?
What about Rachel Corrie?
The W-Blair coalition of imperialism has a lot of blood on its hands. More bodies than OBL.
And now it looks like W is gunning for Iran, god forbid. And the crystal ball says if we allow this reelection then 18 months from now when the country mourns another 1000 of its finest souls lost in battle that Cheney and Rumsfield will be lauding W as the savior of Iran. They will tell us Dick Clarke was wrong and the new CIA guy too. The crazy mullahs were bad man who killed kurds or whomever and lied to the inspectors about WMDs.
The Neo-cons will call for all to hail down to Bush and the collaborators in Congress might second guess, but not before there are more dead, with the worst being the Senate with 60 clones of W's horse, Incitatus, sitting in the well, laughing at Cheney’s profandity.
I pray to God that the American public is not so deluded as to buy this cool-aid fruit punch but reading this board makes me cynical. I find it amazing how the so-called educated human intellect can work to fool itself into believing that anything which some pied piper claims is threatening, is. I believe Jung called this the Stockholm syndrome.
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My name is John Kerry. And I approved this message.
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07-19-2004, 09:40 PM
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Classified
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: You Never Know . . .
Posts: 4,266
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Lemme guess. This is a smear campaign of the VRWC
Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
AP: Clinton Adviser Probed in Terror Memos
By JOHN SOLOMON
WASHINGTON - President Clinton (news - web sites)'s national security adviser, Sandy Berger, is the focus of a criminal investigation after admitting he removed highly classified terrorism documents from a secure reading room during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings, The Associated Press has learned.
Berger's home and office were searched earlier this year by FBI agents armed with warrants. Some drafts of a sensitive after-action report on the Clinton administration's handling of al-Qaida terror threats during the December 1999 millennium celebration are still missing.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1_berger_probe
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How is the diffferent or worse than what Woolsey did when he ws DCI -- i.e. work on top-level classified shit in his office at home on his unsecured laptop. If true, a slap on the wrist for rules violations.
Or do you think Sandy's working for AQ now?
S_A_M
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07-19-2004, 10:25 PM
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
Posts: 7,007
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And Now a Break for Humor
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07-19-2004, 10:47 PM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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BUSH LIES YOU REPUKELICAN MFs!
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Originally posted by captain marvelous
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Could you link us to your website for additional helfulf and thought-provoking information?
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07-19-2004, 11:04 PM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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Max Cleland revives the mantra
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
and gives new meaning to the words "Stump Speech"*
*admit it, this one is funny.
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It's no ongoing fictional gay love affair, but it made me laugh.
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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07-20-2004, 12:07 AM
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 721
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PTSD
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
that you would even think this worthy of posting shows why Dems cannot be trusted with the keys any longer. We have soldiers. they have people to kill. Some of the soldiers will get fucked up by it. this is different from every prior war how?
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PTSD is overblown. Effete liberals like Atticus manufacture statistics on that because killing bothers THEM, not because it bothers REAL MEN.
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07-20-2004, 12:23 AM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
Posts: 86,129
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PTSD
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Originally posted by Skeks in the city
PTSD is overblown. Effete liberals like Atticus manufacture statistics on that because killing bothers THEM, not because it bothers REAL MEN.
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The post you quoted was my attempt to be sarcastic, like the one you fooled Gatti with. But really I'm with you. War is not healthy for children and other living things. I dedicate this post to director Micael Moore. You should go see his documentary. Everyone should.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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07-20-2004, 12:39 AM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
Posts: 86,129
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as the fringe turns
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fringey!
Read the article. Back before they figured out how to get 95% of soldiers to shoot in battle, by changing targets to human-shaped ones and making killing automatic (rather than allowing people to think about it), many fewer soldiers suffered from PTSD.
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You want to talk psycho- babble? I think you'd be nicer person if your mom hadn't kept bringing new "Uncles" home after Dad left.
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07-20-2004, 12:51 AM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,050
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Wilson lied?
Kevin Drum tries to review the bidding and concludes that maybe Wilson lied, but so what?
Quote:
the evidence of outright falsehoods is fairly limited. He pretty clearly lied to Kristof, but corrected himself quite a long time ago, and he also lied about his wife's involvement in his trip — although it's hard to say by how much. Overall, I'd say his credibility as a source is definitely tattered, but perhaps not quite as thoroughly demolished as his enemies are claiming. It's hardly a Page 1 blockbuster.
....Wilson doesn't really matter much anymore except as political sport. The only real issue on the table right now is whether anyone in the Bush administration outed his wife as a CIA agent, and that's a matter under investigation by the FBI. Whether or not Wilson lied to the press about other matters doesn't really affect the legal case.
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