Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[JustForFun]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
That said, dressing like a cheap whore is not sexy, but we're not talking about the trailer park here... we're talking about normal chicks who know how to show off their money makers.

Dressing like a cheap whore can be sexy in the right circumtances. Same circumstances as dressing like a catholic school girl or french maid. Wouldn't wear these outfits in public, but I wouldn't wear hand-cuffs in public, either.

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Paigow:

Looks like you, MR, and Sebby are about equally good at reading comprehension. Lemme guess. YOu went to Southern Illinois Law Skool too? Mental midgets. I squish your heads.

[Mister_Ruysbroeck]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
blah blah blah.... I was joking ... blah blah blah ..... incomprehensible "distertation" on the use of "class" and "classy".... more words ....

Sounds like a lot of post-hoc rationalization to me.

And, at any rate, your so-called "definitions" proved my point, which is that using "class" distinctions as a method of judgment is totally useless.

[Mister_Ruysbroeck]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Looks like you, MR, and Sebby are about equally good at reading comprehension. Lemme guess. YOu went to Southern Illinois Law Skool too? Mental midgets. I squish your heads.

idiot's guide to argumentation rule No. 20,321: when you've run out of logical, intelligent things to say, resort to name calling.

Originally posted by Mister_Ruysbroeck
Sounds like a lot of post-hoc rationalization to me.

And, at any rate, your so-called "definitions" proved my point, which is that using "class" distinctions as a method of judgment is totally useless.

Ask anyone who knows me how I define class and you will know that it is not post hoc rationalizations. Unlike you, I can admit when I am wrong. Or I can simply disagree. You just are too simple to understand the many layers of the words i use. I am quite sure barely for one would know what I was talking about. And DS for another. So please dont project your simple way of handling things upon me. You and I are not in the same class, so to speak. But you would kick my ass at web designing.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Most of what you say makes sense to me, TM, but women and men are not similarly situated in this regard. Comments from male passersby have a latent threatening aspect to them that comments from women to men don't have.

Perhaps the true equalizer is whether you feel the same when a man makes those comments to you.

There is an underlying element of sexual aggression when a man makes statements of a sexual nature to a woman in a situation where she is walking down a street or otherwise somewhat alone or vulnerable.

From discussions with my SO and other male friends, there is a higher level of discomfort when they are whistled at or catcalled by men that is akin to what women experience.

E/O

Oh, and on a completely other matter, "classy" is the most irritating word. Though you were joking in your usage Paigow, just hearing that word is enough to make me tune everything else out.

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Ask anyone who knows me how I define class and you will know that it is not post hoc rationalizations. Unlike you, I can admit when I am wrong. Or I can simply disagree. You just are too simple to understand the many layers of the words i use. I am quite sure barely for one would know what I was talking about. And DS for another. So please dont project your simple way of handling things upon me. You and I are not in the same class, so to speak. But you would kick my ass at web designing.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by evenodds
In honor of April Fools Day:

Have you ever been the victim or the perpetrator of a particularly good practical joke?

I once worked in an office where a fellow associate didn't get along with Partner X. Partner X worked down the hall, and had a vacant office next to him.

Associate was out of town for several days prior to his birthday, and we decided (as a "gift") to move his office, including everything in it, into the vacant space.

I got the office maintenance crew to buy in to the joke, and (after taking polaroids of the placement of all items in this disaster area of an office) we moved every stick of furniture and every piece of paper down the hall and recreated his office.

The plan worked well, until the chair of the office sat me down and explained that while he admired the creativity of the plan, it could not stand. I had to move it all back.

We did so, and (thanks to the polaroids) succeeded in placing everything in its original place to the degree that the associate never knew anything had been moved.

I thought of four more songs about actresses:

Rosanna, Toto (about Rosanna Arquette)
Bette Davis Eyes, Kim Carnes
Kiss Them for Me, Siouxie and the Banchees (about Jayne Mansfield)
Claudine, Rolling Stones (about actress Claudine Longet--Andy Williams' wife, who shot and killed olympic skiier Spider Sabitch http://home.swipnet.se/~w-35264/lyrics/claudine.html)

And I have never denied that I am judgmental. Who isn't ? Besdes the born again Sebby I mean. I just recently said I was very into glittering generalities just the other day. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China anyway? Do I judge people I perceive to be tasteless, immodest, unelegant and flashy? Hell yeah. But I am sure you are a lovely person anyway MR. And what you dont know about me is that in certain situations, I might forgive your shortcomings Because I am only superficially judgmental.

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
And I have never denied that I am judgmental. Who isn't ? Besdes the born again Sebby I mean. I just recently said I was very into glittering generalities just the other day. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China anyway? Do I judge people I perceive to be tasteless, immodest, unelegant and flashy? Hell yeah. But I am sure you are a lovely person anyway MR. And what you dont know about me is that in certain situations, I might forgive your shortcomings Because I am only superficially judgmental.

ENOUGH!!!

While normally you are the occasional blip on my computer monitor with a five word post that is rarely witty, funny, or insightful and usually adds nothign to the conversation and thus makes no indelible impression on me except that you are exceptionally politically correct (hell, can anyone even attribute a persona to you besides guy from Pennsylvania?), you did show up in a dream I had last night. I was in the backseat of Neigh's car and we pulled over to talk to you on the street for some reason. You were a really tall hairy guy with a foreign accent who finished the brief pointless, why did we stop to talk to this guy, converstaino and slipped back into the shadows of some eerie looking high rise to do god knows what. Strange dream.

And being able to cut and paste really large pictures that take up too much space is not an adequate substitute for funniness. just look at MR's posts

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
... trying to be funny yet insulting...

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
[B]Paigow,

"Who wants some pervy leery stranger ogling you."

I have yet to meet a woman who doesn't like the idea that when she passes, heads turn.

"I am not a performance artist or a an object to be ogled."

Then why all the dolling up? Who exactly buys all those copies of Vogue, Elle and Cosmo? Who spends a load on moisturizers, makeup, haircuts, manicures, pedicures, waxings? Who spends hours picking out bathing suits, dresses, etc... Come on. Of course you want to look as attractive as possible.

Unburying this thread briefly because I helped to start the argument.

Sebby, like it or not, your second paragraph is the classic 'she asked for it' defense used by harassers to justify their behavior. This of course doesn't make you a date rapist or harasser. It does place you on the continuum of victim-blaming asses.

Back to ladylike and gentlemanly discreet polite ogling.

1. Lisa Ling and Lucy Liu - Mike Doughty
2. Jojo's Jacket - Stephen Malkmus (about Yul Brynner)
3. Brimful of Asha - Cornershop (about Indian movie singers)
4. You Were Right - Badly Drawn Boy (sings about Madonna - bad movie star, but still arguably a movie star)

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