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Old 04-12-2006, 04:13 PM   #286
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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And another thing- we thought they were for WMDs- once we had them we see they weren't. Sadaam bluffed the world that he had WMDs- maybe the function of the trailers was to appear as what we thought they were. Has there ever been any other function given?
"The fatal tendency of mankind to leave off thinking about a thing when it is no longer doubtful is the cause of half their errors." (On Liberty, ch. 2.)
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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Old 04-12-2006, 05:09 PM   #290
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"I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it."

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Old 04-12-2006, 05:52 PM   #292
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Old 04-12-2006, 07:08 PM   #294
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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It is interesting that you would offer this today. Is this your response to seeing that Bush and Co. pushed the "Trailers of Mass Destruction" claim when the admin's intelligence demonstrated that this was anything but proof of WMD?

There are many things for which I am willing to go to war.* But bringing about the current situation in the Middle East is not one of them.

*I note that Mill uses the words "willing to fight." When did you enlist?
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I think all calls to Mexico should be tapped and traced so that we can root out illegal immigrants.

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It is interesting that you would offer this today. Is this your response to seeing that Bush and Co. pushed the "Trailers of Mass Destruction" claim when the admin's intelligence demonstrated that this was anything but proof of WMD?

There are many things for which I am willing to go to war.* But bringing about the current situation in the Middle East is not one of them.

*I note that Mill uses the words "willing to fight." When did you enlist?
I think Mill wrote those words as commentary to the American Civil War. Maybe Spanky is quoting Mill as his way of acknowledging Iraq's descent into civil war, and also perhaps to express his admiration for the Iraqis who believe enough in their cause to resist an occupying force.
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I think all calls to Mexico should be tapped and traced so that we can root out illegal immigrants.

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You mean the sweeps conducted after the next national set of protests won't do the trick?
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Old 04-12-2006, 07:35 PM   #298
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I think all calls to Mexico should be tapped and traced so that we can root out illegal immigrants.

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They use phone cards and dial from the houses that they clean - so it wouldn't really work.
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You mean the sweeps conducted after the next national set of protests won't do the trick?
this is an excellent point.

"In San Mateo, Juan Alvarez exorted "Illegals have rights too!!!" Alvarez, who illegally entered the country with his wife 15 years ago, now has 4 children in public schools"

Why the hell aren't they beating down the door to Senor Alvarez's hacienda and locking him and his wife in irons?
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this is an excellent point.

"In San Mateo, Juan Alvarez exorted "Illegals have rights too!!!" Alvarez, who illegally entered the country with his wife 15 years ago, now has 4 children in public schools"

Why the hell aren't they beating down the door to Senor Alvarez's hacienda and locking him and his wife in irons?
Which "Juan Alvarez"?
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