Fashion Board 1-08-04 through 02-03-04

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by purse junkie
This is why most guys seem to have no knowledge whatsoever about the lives of people they've known for like 20 years. I'm constantly amazed, for example, about how little guys know about their own SOs--they couldn't answer one of the basic "whoopie" questions on the fucking Newlywed Game, when after 2 dinner parties I already know the SO's life story and that she's planning to leave Clueless Blockhead for another guy.

I bet you also know the birth weights of all of your friends' children and their first through sixth choices for baby names.

That's nice.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by purse junkie
This is why most guys seem to have no knowledge whatsoever about the lives of people they've known for like 20 years. I'm constantly amazed, for example, about how little guys know about their own SOs--they couldn't answer one of the basic "whoopie" questions on the fucking Newlywed Game, when after 2 dinner parties I already know the SO's life story and that she's planning to leave Clueless Blockhead for another guy.

No, I have no problems dealing with a friend going through a divorce or something serious like that. My ire is reserved for those cloying imbeciles who need reinforcement for every single thing they do in a relationship. I've fucked up lots of shit in my life, but my personal relationships is not one of them. I frankly don't know how you can fuck up personal relationships if you communicate properly. Most of these annoying fuckers who need reinforcement are into game playing. They don't come right out and say what they mean to the people with whom they're involved. You can't hide the ball or hedge or play games and expect to have a meaningful relationship with anyone.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
That is sort of my point. Like why the lofty NYT needs to stoop to the level of a People or an Entertainment Weekly.

Oh hell, they probably did the same thing citing Ah-nold and Stallone when Vin Diesel came onto the scene in Pitch Black. Or the Rock in The Runaway.

There are actors that generally fill in certain archetypal characters in Hollywood, and we, the movie going audience, generally expect that there will be some cute early twenty something type (usually American, but not always) to star in a series of romantic comedies and thrillers. These actresses generally do the same type of role for a few years and then do their "serious" role and move on beyond the innocent but resilient girl who gets a few hard knocks but is triumphent in the end (unless she dies tragically). Reece Witherspoon doesn't really fit the model, because most of her early work has been making fun of that archetype (see Freeway, Election, Pleasantville, American Psycho and Legally Blonde.) Julia Ormond tried for a few years (Legends of the Fall, First Knight, and Sabrina), but she wasn't really good. Kate Beckensale also tried (Much Ado About Nothing, Brokedown Palace) but she deviated from the path and tried to come back to the role when she was too old (Pearl Harbor, Serendipity). Drew Barrymore's personal, er, history prevented her from ever getting that role, though she tried in Never Been Kissed. Renee Zelwigger probably had the title for awhile, especially after Jerry Maguire. Kirsten Dunst probably is a hell of a lot closer than anyone else at this point to filling that role (and she was born in 1982, so she's got some years to hold the title if she wants it), though since she's been acting for so long, she may want to do something else. Thora Birch, Christina Ricci, Claire Danes, Natalie Portman, Winona Ryder, and a variety of others didn't make the cut because they did too many dark and off beat characters. Katie Holmes, Selma Blair, the American Pie cast, all of them are too no-name or too low-brow and don't have the star qualities. Gwyneth didn't make the cut because she's never really exuded cute.

I don't know if this particular person is going to fill the archetype, but it's probably either her or Mandy Moore.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Oh hell, they probably did the same thing citing Ah-nold and Stallone when Vin Diesel came onto the scene in Pitch Black. Or the Rock in The Runaway.

There are actors that generally fill in certain archetypal characters in Hollywood, and we, the movie going audience, generally expect that there will be some cute early twenty something type (usually American, but not always) to star in a series of romantic comedies and thrillers. These actresses generally do the same type of role for a few years and then do their "serious" role and move on beyond the innocent but resilient girl who gets a few hard knocks but is triumphent in the end (unless she dies tragically). Reece Witherspoon doesn't really fit the model, because most of her early work has been making fun of that archetype (see Freeway, Election, Pleasantville, American Psycho and Legally Blonde.) Julia Ormond tried for a few years (Legends of the Fall, First Knight, and Sabrina), but she wasn't really good. Kate Beckensale also tried (Much Ado About Nothing, Brokedown Palace) but she deviated from the path and tried to come back to the role when she was too old (Pearl Harbor, Serendipity). Drew Barrymore's personal, er, history prevented her from ever getting that role, though she tried in Never Been Kissed. Renee Zelwigger probably had the title for awhile, especially after Jerry Maguire. Kirsten Dunst probably is a hell of a lot closer than anyone else at this point to filling that role (and she was born in 1982, so she's got some years to hold the title if she wants it), though since she's been acting for so long, she may want to do something else. Thora Birch, Christina Ricci, Claire Danes, Natalie Portman, Winona Ryder, and a variety of others didn't make the cut because they did too many dark and off beat characters. Katie Holmes, Selma Blair, the American Pie cast, all of them are too no-name or too low-brow and don't have the star qualities.

I don't know if this particular person is going to fill the archetype, but it's probably either her or Maggie Moore.

Let's just have it be Scarlett Johanssen

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Oh hell, they probably did the same thing citing Ah-nold and Stallone when Vin Diesel came onto the scene in Pitch Black. Or the Rock in The Runaway.

There are actors that generally fill in certain archetypal characters in Hollywood, and we, the movie going audience, generally expect that there will be some cute early twenty something type (usually American, but not always) to star in a series of romantic comedies and thrillers. These actresses generally do the same type of role for a few years and then do their "serious" role and move on beyond the innocent but resilient girl who gets a few hard knocks but is triumphent in the end (unless she dies tragically). Reece Witherspoon doesn't really fit the model, because most of her early work has been making fun of that archetype (see Freeway, Election, Pleasantville, American Psycho and Legally Blonde.) Julia Ormond tried for a few years (Legends of the Fall, First Knight, and Sabrina), but she wasn't really good. Kate Beckensale also tried (Much Ado About Nothing, Brokedown Palace) but she deviated from the path and tried to come back to the role when she was too old (Pearl Harbor, Serendipity). Drew Barrymore's personal, er, history prevented her from ever getting that role, though she tried in Never Been Kissed. Renee Zelwigger probably had the title for awhile, especially after Jerry Maguire. Kirsten Dunst probably is a hell of a lot closer than anyone else at this point to filling that role (and she was born in 1982, so she's got some years to hold the title if she wants it), though since she's been acting for so long, she may want to do something else. Thora Birch, Christina Ricci, Claire Danes, Natalie Portman, Winona Ryder, and a variety of others didn't make the cut because they did too many dark and off beat characters. Katie Holmes, Selma Blair, the American Pie cast, all of them are too no-name or too low-brow and don't have the star qualities.

I don't know if this particular person is going to fill the archetype, but it's probably either her or Maggie Moore.

I don't care if its Ernest Borgnine in a dress, just get rid of Julia Roberts.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I don't know if this particular person is going to fill the archetype, but it's probably either her or Maggie Moore.

You have not convinced me that you are reading People and Us Weekly.

I stand by my choice of me for entertainment trivia.




Mandy Moore

[mmm3587]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I always thought she was cute but she dated a cat I knew pretty well for the last two years of school, so I never got a chance.

Zipper cat or bottle cat?

[dtb]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I recognize my grammar left the point vague, but I'm hurt that you'd think I would laud Patch Adams.

Like a knife in my heart.

All I can say is, "WHEW!"

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Oh hell, they probably did the same thing citing Ah-nold and Stallone when Vin Diesel came onto the scene in Pitch Black. Or the Rock in The Runaway.

There are actors that generally fill in certain archetypal characters in Hollywood, and we, the movie going audience, generally expect that there will be some cute early twenty something type (usually American, but not always) to star in a series of romantic comedies and thrillers. These actresses generally do the same type of role for a few years and then do their "serious" role and move on beyond the innocent but resilient girl who gets a few hard knocks but is triumphent in the end (unless she dies tragically). Reece Witherspoon doesn't really fit the model, because most of her early work has been making fun of that archetype (see Freeway, Election, Pleasantville, American Psycho and Legally Blonde.) Julia Ormond tried for a few years (Legends of the Fall, First Knight, and Sabrina), but she wasn't really good. Kate Beckensale also tried (Much Ado About Nothing, Brokedown Palace) but she deviated from the path and tried to come back to the role when she was too old (Pearl Harbor, Serendipity). Drew Barrymore's personal, er, history prevented her from ever getting that role, though she tried in Never Been Kissed. Renee Zelwigger probably had the title for awhile, especially after Jerry Maguire. Kirsten Dunst probably is a hell of a lot closer than anyone else at this point to filling that role (and she was born in 1982, so she's got some years to hold the title if she wants it), though since she's been acting for so long, she may want to do something else. Thora Birch, Christina Ricci, Claire Danes, Natalie Portman, Winona Ryder, and a variety of others didn't make the cut because they did too many dark and off beat characters. Katie Holmes, Selma Blair, the American Pie cast, all of them are too no-name or too low-brow and don't have the star qualities.

I don't know if this particular person is going to fill the archetype, but it's probably either her or Maggie Moore.

Maggie Moore, as in the girflriend of Amos Roddick?

I think Kate Hudson has the americas sweetheart crown at the moment in terms of who makes the most money. Actually, I though reese had it until legally blonde 2 (bc it sucked, not that I saw it, not bc she was too old). but kate is like 25 now I think so she probably is too old for it as well. it was a short run, huh? how to lose a guy in ten days.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I think Kate Hudson has the americas sweetheart crown at the moment . . .

My daughter assures me that it's Hillary Duff.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Maggie Moore, as in the girflriend of Amos Roddick?

this made me lol.

Note to Bilmore's kid: Hillary Duff is too cheezy to be America's sweetheart. Not going to happen.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Maggie Moore, as in the girflriend of Amos Roddick?

I think Kate Hudson has the americas sweetheart crown at the moment in terms of who makes the most money. Actually, I though reese had it until legally blonde 2 (bc it sucked, not that I saw it, not bc she was too old). but kate is like 25 now I think so she probably is too old for it as well. it was a short run, huh? how to lose a guy in ten days.

Mandy Moore, who probably will never be taken seriously by the movie-goers because she's a pop queen too. She's in some movie that's out right now that I have no interest in seeing.

Kate Hudson isn't a bad choice either.

Oh, Sandra Bullock tried too, but she's never going to be an A-list actor, and she got into the game pretty late.

Scarlett Johansen does the off-beat stuff, and she's not "cute" enough. (I'd much rather watch someone like her than these vapid cutsies, but I'm talking about both the archetype and the person who can command the box office. She doesn't fit into either role, and to her credit, I dont' think she wants to.)

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Maggie Moore, as in the girflriend of Amos Roddick?

I think Kate Hudson has the americas sweetheart crown at the moment in terms of who makes the most money. Actually, I though reese had it until legally blonde 2 (bc it sucked, not that I saw it, not bc she was too old). but kate is like 25 now I think so she probably is too old for it as well. it was a short run, huh? how to lose a guy in ten days.

How long before Kate divorces that cat from the Black Crowes who lookes like Mr. Burns with bad pre-puescent facial hair?

I give it another two years.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Mandy Moore, who probably will never be taken seriously by the movie-goers because she's a pop queen too. She's in some movie that's out right now that I have no interest in seeing.

Kate Hudson isn't a bad choice either.

Oh, Sandra Bullock tried too, but she's never going to be an A-list actor, and she got into the game pretty late.

Scarlett Johansen does the off-beat stuff, and she's not "cute" enough. (I'd much rather watch someone like her than these vapid cutsies, but I'm talking about both the archetype and the person who can command the box office. She doesn't fit into either role, and to her credit, I dont' think she wants to.)

Sandra Bullock is about as sexual as Dan Rather. She could be a trannie.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
this made me lol.

Note to Bilmore's kid: Hillary Duff is too cheezy to be America's sweetheart. Not going to happen.

I don't know exactly who it is. Hillary Duff is pretty popular among the kiddies, but maybe that's the problem, just like I can't see either of the Olsen Twins making the jump (sorry, Coltrane). If I were to guess, I'd say someone (who started in) television will make the jump.

Amanda Bynes, maybe? Come to think of it, she may suffer from the same problem as H.D., but at least she's smart enough not to sing.