Where the Kids Come to Mouth Off

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Team America for us

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It's an astounding use of inanimate objects.
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Sounds good to me.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Duh. She's dragging him around in public dressed as Hansel this Halloween. She must have something going on.

Not Hansel. Captain von Trapp (hi, PLF!).

Yes, this re line was used by rp a looooong time ago, but it's still apropos.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Not Bob
She could be talking about the fact that many otherwise intelligent men (but apparently none of us here in FB Land) do stupid things in pursuit of gettin' some.

Bill Clinton, for example. Jim Bakker. Gary Hart. Newt Gingrich. Kobe Bryant (assuming his story is true). Hugh Grant. Eddie Murphy. Those kids who killed the weather chick's husband in the real life story that inspired "To Die For."

In short, many men lose their rational thought when lust, uhm, arises.

I get you. But I don't buy it. Those men all weighed the risk of getting caught against getting some. Stupid? Yez. Irrational? No. And stupid doesn't necessarily equal irrational.

TM

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The emotion thing is not logical, and I can't control it sometimes when it happens.

I don't remember the quote exactly, but Joseph Heller nailed it in Closing Time (the sequel to Catch-22) where he said something like:

Emotions are an excuse to act irrationally. or
Emotions are a justification to behave abominably or
something like that.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Can you address both?

TM

I'll try.

Caveat: I'm a fairly laid back person, and with the exception of other drivers and Republicans, I generally don't let things that I can't control bother me too much. I'm more likely to be overly excited about something than overly upset about something.

I think that a lot of the stuff that you may be bitching about/seeing is the result of bad communication. Something--either you or something in the outside--is bothering her. She either thinks it's stupid and doesn't want to bring it to your attention, or she thinks it's obvious and doesn't have to bring it to your attention. It's also probable/possible that it's already been brought to your attention and you thought it was stupid/trivial/not worth all of the energy that she's giving it. If that's the case, then she's pissed off because you're not sensitive to something that is really bothering her. The thing is, you have to know what's bothering and call her on it if it's bullshit and acknowledge it if it's not bullshit. If you're not talking about it and letting it slide, then you're going to end up in the same pattern over and over again. You're right in that emotions aren't necessarily rational, but they can be valid, and they're damned hard to control. How you react to your emotions, though, you can control. And she has a right to be legitimately pissed off at something you think is idiotic and vice versa.

Further caveat: Guys always love my relationship advice, but they never want to date me.

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by Dave
October 4, 2004 (Flint, Mich.) —

A burning thong was a little too hot for a Flint, Michigan club. Lead guitarist Joe Klein, of the punk band Treephort, dropped his pants during their set and set his thong on fire. He then stripped off the burning thong and ran around the stage in the raw.
Police and firefighters responded, after someone called 9-1-1. The band's singer Lee Satterfield doesn't know what all the fuss is about. He says they're professionals and know how to do the burning thong thing.

No one was busted. But the club's owner gave the band the hook, cutting short their set.

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Umm, among other things, did they hear about the Station fire in Rhode Island?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
Umm, among other things, did they hear about the Station fire in Rhode Island?

Perhaps the scale of the pyrotechnics made such concerns secondary.

After all, it could be that given Mr. Satterfield's dimensions, the "burning thong thing" consisted of minimal candlepower.

[Sparklehorse]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I get you. But I don't buy it. Those men all weighed the risk of getting caught against getting some. Stupid? Yez. Irrational? No. And stupid doesn't necessarily equal irrational.

TM

I think you're making a gender distinction where none exist. Some people can make connections between events/circumstances and their respective emotions and then be able to articulate these emotions. Others really can't. When they can't (or won't), they may displace emotions elsewhere.

So if she's (irrationally) mad about something inane that you said or did, chances are she's really pissed about something bigger and either won't admit it to herself or won't admit it to you.

Men do this too.

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Why do women put so much importance in their feelings and emotions. Obviously they don't all do it all the time. But damn it if it doesn't get annoying having to deal with the varying moods of women you're dating or whatever, which fluctuate based on how they're feeling that day.

Do I have to buy that stupid Mars, Venus book?

Thurgreed(I'm sure Fugee will take up a whole page on this one)Marshall

There's nothing you can do. You can't control it and you can't beat it. You're screwed. When in doubt, have something she loves handy. When Mr. Arby senses my mood change, he gives me ice cream... shocking, huh!

At least it keeps my mouth busy and he listens to less crap that way.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
So you are the guy in shorts and Ugg boots?

But a very lucky girl has already claimed me.

Actually, I don't do shorts. I tend to dress more like this:

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I was milling about a car dealership with my wife over the weekend when I came across an early 90s Bentley with low miles on it being sold for $35k. I think one could easily negotiate it down to $30k. Its a really pretty car, and the dealer just wants to get rid of it (got it from some kid who inherited it and traded it in on a Benz).

I don't drive too much and got to thinking "Fuck, that would be a fun car to have, and I wouldn't put too many miles on it..." I got to drinking with a buddy later that night and told him about the car and he said "Why wouldn't you buy it?" I said "You'd look absurd." He told me I was a chickenshit. Now, of course, I won't be buying the car for a variety of practical reasons, but it led to me to think "Why not?" I mean, really, if you could grab a nice ride like that, why not get it? Or does a used Bentley say the same thing as a used Porsche/Ferrari (i.e., overcompensating)?

It is really a gorgeous car.

I'm a day late to the discussion of Sebby's Bentley, so I'm figuring that everyone else has all of the angles covered. But here are some other tips for Sebby as he nears his AARP years:



More useful advice.

[mmm3587]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Why do women put so much importance in their feelings and emotions. Obviously they don't all do it all the time. But damn it if it doesn't get annoying having to deal with the varying moods of women you're dating or whatever, which fluctuate based on how they're feeling that day.

Do I have to buy that stupid Mars, Venus book?

Thurgreed(I'm sure Fugee will take up a whole page on this one)Marshall

When a woman says that she doesn't feel like having sex with you, or her emotions are telling her that you guys aren't right for each other, or that she's not in the mood, I'm not sure that those are really problems with her feelings or emotions or mood, if you know what I mean. And I'm sure that you do.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I think that a lot of the stuff that you may be bitching about/seeing is the result of bad communication. Something--either you or something in the outside--is bothering her. She either thinks it's stupid and doesn't want to bring it to your attention, or she thinks it's obvious and doesn't have to bring it to your attention. It's also probable/possible that it's already been brought to your attention and you thought it was stupid/trivial/not worth all of the energy that she's giving it. If that's the case, then she's pissed off because you're not sensitive to something that is really bothering her. The thing is, you have to know what's bothering and call her on it if it's bullshit and acknowledge it if it's not bullshit. If you're not talking about it and letting it slide, then you're going to end up in the same pattern over and over again. You're right in that emotions aren't necessarily rational, but they can be valid, and they're damned hard to control. How you react to your emotions, though, you can control. And she has a right to be legitimately pissed off at something you think is idiotic and vice versa.

Interesting. Makes sense to me. No one was pissed off and there was no fight. I just don't understand how emotions that seemingly pop up all of a sudden out of nowhere can't be controlled. The problem I guess I have is my failure to understand how an irrational emotion that seemingly hasn't been caused by something specific can affect you to the point where you are down or in a bad mood.

(I also wanted to kick start the board.)

TM

(I also wanted to kick start the board.)

TM

Is it always this slow? Sheesh, I was looking for a little action.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I just don't understand how emotions that seemingly pop up all of a sudden out of nowhere can't be controlled. The problem I guess I have is my failure to understand how an irrational emotion that seemingly hasn't been caused by something specific can affect you to the point where you are down or in a bad mood.

(I also wanted to kick start the board.)

TM

Like I said, this doesn't happen to me very often, but it does occassionally. Ususally there is something specific, though she may not be able to pinpoint it. Something may have bothered her more than usual and small aggravations just exacerbate her bad mood. Something you said or did pissed her off, and while it may be stupid for her to be pissed off, she's not looking particularly favorably on you. Things that ordinarily she may let slide get called on more. She's not as affectionate or as responsive to your affection. Any of this sound familiar? Some of it may not be able to be communicated, and she'll just have to work it out on her own. But you might want let her know that you're not really interested in beign a target and point out that unless you know what's bothering her there's not much that you can do to stay out of fire.

(and thanks for the kick-start. I appreciate it.)