Politics As Usual

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Your coalition is going to break down here. atticus has to reject this concern. Jed Barlett came out strongly on the side of killing a known terrorist regardless of any stinking law.

Yeah. I think you might have me confused with someone else's coalition, though.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
While I continue to wait for you to post something that shows that Gore is crazy,

"In the end, for this administration, it is all about power. This lie about the invented connection between al Qaeda and Iraq was and is the key to justifying the current ongoing Constitutional power grab by the President. So long as their big flamboyant lie remains an established fact in the public's mind, President Bush will be seen as justified in taking for himself the power to make war on his whim. He will be seen as justified in acting to selectively suspend civil liberties - again on his personal discretion - and he will continue to intimidate the press and thereby distort the political reality experienced by the American people during his bid for re-election...."

or perhaps this whopper

"The Administration works closely with a network of "rapid response" digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for "undermining support for our troops." Paul Krugman, the New York Times columnist, was one of the first journalists to regularly expose the President's consistent distortions of the facts."

perhaps you can add to the list something that shows that he denies the threat of terrorism.

Not deny - diminishes - to the extent that he does a Moore, specifically, Bush is more dangerous than the thugs.

"Even though we are now attuned to orange alerts and the potential for terrorist attacks, our founders would almost certainly caution us that the biggest threat to the future of the America we love is still the endemic challenge that democracies have always faced whenever they have appeared in history - a challenge rooted in the inherent difficulty of self governance and the vulnerability to fear that is part of human nature. Again, specifically, the biggest threat to America is that we Americans will acquiesce in the slow and steady accumulation of too much power in the hands of one person."

[the Spartan]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
While I continue to wait for you to post something that shows that Gore is crazy,

there was time, back in September of 2000 when in a calculated power move to win over the leftwing union voters who already vote democrat, he regaled the hordes of union stiffs at campaign rallies with the tale of how much he loved and was influenced by Momma Gore singing him to sleep as a baby with the "Look for the Union Label" lullaby.

Of course the fact that he was 27 when it was released, at the commencement of the horrifically nauseating ILGWU ad campaign that featured it, is no bar to his insanity.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by the Spartan
there was time, back in September of 2000 when in a calculated power move to win over the leftwing union voters who already vote democrat, he regaled the hordes of union stiffs at campaign rallies with the tale of how much he loved and was influenced by Momma Gore singing him to sleep as a baby with the "Look for the Union Label" lullaby.

Of course the fact that he was 27 when it was released, at the commencement of the horrifically nauseating ILGWU ad campaign that featured it, is no bar to his insanity.

I think you confuse insanity with an understandable disrespect for the intelligence of his support base.

Originally posted by the Spartan
Gore "Look for the Union Label" lullaby story.

Hahaha! Good one pensk! Ironically, another old democrat canard has raised its prevaricating head today:

Clinton claim causes stir in NZ
24 June 2004

Bill Clinton has raised eyebrows in New Zealand after claiming his wife, Hillary Clinton, was named after famous Kiwi mountaineer Sir Edmund Hillary, AFP reported today.


Problem is, Hillary conquered Mount Everest in 1953, almost seven years after infant Hillary was born.


Of course, I am sure this is just a simple misunderstanding. The Rodmans of greater chicagoland named their lovely daughter after one of that period's most renowned beekeepers in all of New Zealand, because its a little known but common Rodham family tradition to name the first daughter in a line after a little-known but uber-talented foreign apiarian.

As such I'm shocked that this is still an issue.

Of course, the later fact that Sir Edmund became famous for conquering the beast known as Mount Everest was an unforeseeable but fortuitous coincidence.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by the Spartan

LOL!!!

[Hank Chinaski]

[Tyrone Slothrop]

What I don't get is how you guys can get all bent out of shape about obvious fact that Bush tries to mislead people, and then you question the former VP's mental health for -- at most -- political hyperbole. I hold Charles Krauthammer responsible for this meme, and being a former psychiatrist he should know better. It's ugly.

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
"In the end, for this administration, it is all about power. This lie about the invented connection between al Qaeda and Iraq was and is the key to justifying the current ongoing Constitutional power grab by the President. So long as their big flamboyant lie remains an established fact in the public's mind, President Bush will be seen as justified in taking for himself the power to make war on his whim. He will be seen as justified in acting to selectively suspend civil liberties - again on his personal discretion - and he will continue to intimidate the press and thereby distort the political reality experienced by the American people during his bid for re-election...."

Crazy? Bitch, please. Is there any question that Bush sees the war on terror as his primary political strength? He used it for political advantage in the last election (Dept. of Homeland Insecurity, anyone?). One can disagree about whether to call what Bush has done a "constitutional power grab" -- not the phrase I'd use, but I didn't see what came before it in the speech, and I think I get where he's come from. If you're talking about the Padilla case, that's a fair turn of phrase.

"The Administration works closely with a network of "rapid response" digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for "undermining support for our troops." Paul Krugman, the New York Times columnist, was one of the first journalists to regularly expose the President's consistent distortions of the facts."

Crazy? Not even. I have no doubt that this is true, although calling people Brown Shirts is, again, not a phrase I'd use. It's hyperbole.

Not deny - diminishes - to the extent that he does a Moore, specifically, Bush is more dangerous than the thugs.

"Even though we are now attuned to orange alerts and the potential for terrorist attacks, our founders would almost certainly caution us that the biggest threat to the future of the America we love is still the endemic challenge that democracies have always faced whenever they have appeared in history - a challenge rooted in the inherent difficulty of self governance and the vulnerability to fear that is part of human nature. Again, specifically, the biggest threat to America is that we Americans will acquiesce in the slow and steady accumulation of too much power in the hands of one person."

He's not diminishing the terrorist threat at all -- you just disagree with him about the threat that Bush poses. Which is fine, but it doesn't make him crazy. During WWII, a lot of people probably thought the internees were threats too, but I think most people would not accept that their internment was the bigger threat to our system. Checks and balances, baby. Obivously, Gore is not suggesting that Bush is going to kill more people than terrorists.

Originally posted by the Spartan
there was time, back in September of 2000 when in a calculated power move to win over the leftwing union voters who already vote democrat, he regaled the hordes of union stiffs at campaign rallies with the tale of how much he loved and was influenced by Momma Gore singing him to sleep as a baby with the "Look for the Union Label" lullaby.

Of course the fact that he was 27 when it was released, at the commencement of the horrifically nauseating ILGWU ad campaign that featured it, is no bar to his insanity.

Whatever. If symptoms continue, seek professional help.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Crazy? Not even. I have no doubt that this is true, although calling people Brown Shirts is, again, not a phrase I'd use. It's hyperbole.

I was more appalled by his use of Krugman as a credible source

Obivously, Gore is not suggesting that Bush is going to kill more people than terrorists.

No, the left leaves that up to the fat fuck in my latest avatar. Which, BTW, is making me so ill, I need to change it.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I was more appalled by his use of Krugman as a credible source

The sad thing is that when he wins his Nobel, you're going to take it as a sign that the Norwegians have gone over to the dark side instead of admitting that he's far from the lefty Ann Coulter.

No, the left leaves that up to the fat fuck in my latest avatar. Which, BTW, is making me so ill, I need to change it.

It's a free country and a free market, and it appears that Michael Moore has found a way to afford nicer clothes, if he ever gets tired of looking like that.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
The sad thing is that when he wins his Nobel, you're going to take it as a sign that the Norwegians have gone over to the dark side instead of admitting that he's far from the lefty Ann Coulter.

Don't you mean the Swedes?

Unless you honestly think his ludicrous musings will somehow win him the Peace Prize. It seemed to have worked for a certain peanut farmer.

Which begs this legitimate question: are the Nords actually sun-deprived and antisocial enough to nominate FatFuck for the Prize?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Don't you mean the Swedes?

I thought they were all handed out in Oslo. Silly me. According to Brittanica:

• After Nobel's death on Dec. 10, 1896, the Nobel Foundation was set up to carry out the provisions of his will and to administer the fortune he had left. In his will Nobel had stipulated that four different institutions--three Swedish and one Norwegian--should award the prizes. In Stockholm, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences awards the prizes for physics, chemistry, and economics; the Karolinska Institute awards the prize for physiology or medicine; and the Swedish Academy awards the prize for literature. The Norwegian Nobel Committee based in Oslo awards the prize for peace. The Nobel Foundation is the legal owner and functional administrator of the funds and serves as the joint administrative body of the prize-awarding institutions, but it is not concerned with the prize deliberations or decisions, which rest exclusively with the four institutions.

Which begs this legitimate question: are the Nords actually sun-deprived and antisocial enough to nominate FatFuck for the Prize?

If that's the Daily Double, I'll bet it all on "No," Alex.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Don't you mean the Swedes?

Unless you honestly think his ludicrous musings will somehow win him the Peace Prize. It seemed to have worked for a certain peanut farmer.

Which begs this legitimate question: are the Nords actually sun-deprived and antisocial enough to nominate FatFuck for the Prize?

Does the Nobel family still have interests in munitions? Seems to me the credit given to Carter, any control that Mike may get in changing national decisions, etc, ultimately end up with out eventually needing to blow lots more things up once a brave man takes the helm.

Loss leader?

[Replaced_Texan]

I saw Bill Richardson's name come up again as a potential VP for Kerry. I'm a fan, though I'd be sad for the people of New Mexico that they'd lose a very good governor. I think he'd add to the ticket, though.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I saw Bill Richardson's name come up again as a potential VP for Kerry. I'm a fan, though I'd be sad for the people of New Mexico that they'd lose a very good governor. I think he'd add to the ticket, though.

He's been my call for a couple years now. I think Kerry/Dems are crazy (funny that) not to pick him.