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08-30-2005, 11:44 PM
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#3031
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 188
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Street Fighting Man
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Originally posted by Spanky
You don't understand why America is so successful and that is why you promote policies that would undermine her success.
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I'm sure my younger self will argue with this point in the next few hours, but my current wiser self recognizes you were right.
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08-30-2005, 11:55 PM
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#3032
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,053
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Street Fighting Man
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
It is your lack of understandig what makes America great and your disdain for free markets that is sad. Do you think all these people having been trying to get to America for that past two hundred years because they want political freedom. Some yes, but most came here because of the economic opportunities. In most countrys economic success was more dependent on who you know than what you know or how hard you work. They came here to get away from economies where opressive governments stymied economic opportunity.
You don't understand why America is so successful and that is why you promote policies that would undermine her success.
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By your thinking, you should move to Hong Kong. It's even more American than America. I'll come visit sometime.
In your world, the words "great" and "succcessful" seem to mean the same thing, since you just switched from one to the other without apparently meaning to. If so, that's also sad.
I know what economic opportunity is. My father's family came to this country for it. I don't need you to remind me what that's about. But I'm not going to swallow a partisan economic agenda designed to benefit the rich at the expense of the rest of us just because it's wrapped in patriotic twaddle.
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08-31-2005, 12:06 AM
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#3033
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 188
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Street Fighting Man
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
By your thinking, you should move to Hong Kong. It's even more American than America. I'll come visit sometime.
In your world, the words "great" and "succcessful" seem to mean the same thing, since you just switched from one to the other without apparently meaning to. If so, that's also sad.
I know what economic opportunity is. My father's family came to this country for it. I don't need you to remind me what that's about. But I'm not going to swallow a partisan economic agenda designed to benefit the rich at the expense of the rest of us just because it's wrapped in patriotic twaddle.
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str8. Surely there's a feel good self-help movie in this. Have your people call mine?
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08-31-2005, 12:52 AM
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#3034
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
Posts: 9,477
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Fade to Black
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paigowprincess
I don't really follow this board and am not sure where everyone stands politically. I do know that Penske and Spanky are republicans, as is Slave (but I do not understand why he is, unless its part of his aspiration to join the elite classes as evidenced by his GreatestShits on classy red suits and Esquire on the End of Biz Casual at Cadwalader)....
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For someone that purports to hate me so much, you sure spend an awful lot of time looking back at my old Infirm posts.
Rather than staring at old, meaningless posts in your remaining spare time - might I suggest going to a greenhouse, beach or museum? Or watch the sunset?
I'd hate to think the last thing you see are the words "Ping Pow".
Regards,
Slave
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08-31-2005, 01:04 AM
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#3035
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
Posts: 6,793
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Street Fighting Man
Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
In your world, the words "great" and "succcessful" seem to mean the same thing, since you just switched from one to the other without apparently meaning to. If so, that's also sad.
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What has made this country successful is the same thing that made this country great. A successful country is a great country. What is sad about that.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop I know what economic opportunity is. My father's family came to this country for it. I don't need you to remind me what that's about.
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Clearly you don't. You constantly promote policies that would undermine our ecnomic success. Your are hostile to free enterprize and it was economic opporunity created by free enterprize that attracted your relatives. You have never lived in a country that has implemented the policies you promote. If you had you would not promote them.
QUOTE] Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop But I'm not going to swallow a partisan economic agenda designed to benefit the rich at the expense of the rest of us just because it's wrapped in patriotic twaddle. [/QUOTE]
You aren't just against Bush's economic agenda. You are hostile to free enterprize which even a significant portion of your party is not.
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08-31-2005, 01:57 AM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,053
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Street Fighting Man
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
What has made this country successful is the same thing that made this country great. A successful country is a great country. What is sad about that.
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OK, whatever. I'm just saying there is more to life than material success. If that seems odd to you, so be it.
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Clearly you don't. You constantly promote policies that would undermine our ecnomic success. Your are hostile to free enterprize and it was economic opporunity created by free enterprize that attracted your relatives. You have never lived in a country that has implemented the policies you promote. If you had you would not promote them.
You aren't just against Bush's economic agenda. You are hostile to free enterprize which even a significant portion of your party is not.
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Just because I disagree with you at the margin doesn't mean I'm hostile to free enterprise. Indeed, given what I do for a living, I find that suggestion a little bizarre.
Oh, and the policies I promote are pretty centrist, and I have been living in the United States for many years now, so guess again.
Meanwhile, you conveniently ignore all of the camels with their nose under the GOP big tent who keep sucking at the government trough. The GOP keeps carrying water for corporate interests that would rather take a government handout than compete, but I've never heard you say this is unamerican.
Wrapping partisanship in the flag -- a Republican gift to America.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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08-31-2005, 02:06 AM
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PenskeWorld
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Fade to Black
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
For someone that purports to hate me so much, you sure spend an awful lot of time looking back at my old Infirm posts.
Rather than staring at old, meaningless posts in your remaining spare time - might I suggest going to a greenhouse, beach or museum? Or watch the sunset?
I'd hate to think the last thing you see are the words "Ping Pow".
Regards,
Slave
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"Ping! Pow!
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08-31-2005, 03:58 AM
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#3038
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,053
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for BRC
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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08-31-2005, 11:14 AM
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#3039
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
Posts: 86,129
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str8- can you hook up tixs?
boot those Dead revivals scheduled for early fall- if you wanna be where the best acid is you need to get on the Peace Mom tour.
http://www.bangornews.com/news/templates/?a=119098
- 'Peace Mom' to protest Maine air show
Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - Bangor Daily News
By Eric Russell, Of the NEWS Staff
Peace groups planning to protest a Blue Angels air show next month at the Brunswick Naval Air Station have enlisted a woman whose own demonstrations outside President Bush's Texas ranch have galvanized many against the war in Iraq.
Cindy Sheehan of Vacaville, Calif., will be the featured guest at a protest on Saturday, Sept. 10, in Brunswick. Her son, Casey Sheehan, is one of more than 1,800 U.S. soldiers who have died in Iraq since March 2003.
"She's definitely coming. She's already bought her [plane] ticket," Bruce Gagnon of Maine Veterans for Peace said Monday.
Sheehan has earned the nickname "Peace Mom" after staging a monthlong demonstration outside Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, where the president was vacationing for most of August. She has said she will end her protest on Wednesday, and even though she hasn't achieved her goal of meeting with the president, Sheehan's resolve has roused considerable interest across the nation.
"She has a lot of guts, and she's willing to stand up to Bush in a big way," Gagnon said of Sheehan.
The Maine Veterans for Peace has been planning the event for months in collaboration with several other peace groups across the state. Gagnon said he expects a turnout of several hundred and said Sheehan's appearance likely will multiply those numbers.
The air show itself is expected to draw as many as 100,000, according to BNAS Director of Public Affairs John James.
It is the first time the Blue Angels, the U.S. Navy's elite team who fly F/A18 Hornets in synchronized formations, havebeen in Brunswick since 1999, and it could be the last time now that BNAS has been slated for closure by the Base Realignment and Closure commission.
"This is the largest single event in the state," James said Monday. "It is an opportunity for the military to demonstrate its missions and capabilities to taxpayers of America and to entertain families and individuals."
As for the protest, James said he isn't concerned that it will interfere with the show.
"We respect the right of parties to protest," he said. "They have been working with [Brunswick] police, and they seem to have covered all their bases."
Gagnon said the Blue Angels air show is a recruiting gimmick for the Navy, which has seen enlistment numbers decline steadily. He pointed out that the air station in Brunswick has played a significant role in the Iraq war.
"We need to shine a light on BNAS' role in Iraq ... we need to talk about that," Gagnon said. "We have to start having some debate within Congress. I think, nationally, the [Democratic] party is starting to feel a lot of pressure."
The Sept. 10 protest will begin at 9 a.m. at the Brunswick mall on Maine Street. From there, protesters will march to BNAS, a trek expected to take about an hour. Once the protesters reach the gate, they will hold a rally during which Sheehan and others, including an Orrs Island couple whose son is now in Iraq, will speak.
"For a lot of us, it's personal," Gagnon said. "A lot of people try to make the impression that we don't care about the troops, but that's not true."
For more information on the protest, visit the Veterans for Peace Web site at www.vfpmaine.org.
For more information on the air show, visit its Web site at www.greatstateofmaineairshow.com.
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08-31-2005, 11:17 AM
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#3040
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Southern charmer
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: At the Great Altar of Passive Entertainment
Posts: 7,033
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str8- can you hook up tixs?
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
boot those Dead revivals scheduled for early fall- if you wanna be where the best acid is you need to get on the Peace Mom tour.
http://www.bangornews.com/news/templates/?a=119098
[list]'Peace Mom' to protest Maine air show
Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - Bangor Daily News
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Oh, Lord, that's stupid. Protesting a Blue Angels show?
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08-31-2005, 11:22 AM
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#3041
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: In that cafe crowded with fools
Posts: 1,466
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str8- can you hook up tixs?
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Oh, Lord, that's stupid. Protesting a Blue Angels show?
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That's fine. The more she shows how indiscriminate and unthoughtful she is about all of this, the less we'll have to hear about her.
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Why was I born with such contemporaries?
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08-31-2005, 11:37 AM
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#3042
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,873
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Street Fighting Man
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Actually, I am a few more Bing nights and an overnight excursion to Vegas away from being Mrs. Bing. My plan is to inherit the cocktail lounge. Ty@50? Do I succeed in turning this cyberplace into a bricks and mortar institution?
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No way, no how. I've met Mr. Bing and he luuuuuvs the Missus. Among other things, she is a nationally ranked pool player. Very sexy.
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08-31-2005, 11:41 AM
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#3043
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
Posts: 7,007
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str8- can you hook up tixs?
Quote:
Originally posted by Gattigap
Oh, Lord, that's stupid. Protesting a Blue Angels show?
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SF cancelled them last year. Worst decision in the City's recent history.
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08-31-2005, 11:41 AM
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#3044
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,873
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Fade to Black
Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
For someone that purports to hate me so much, you sure spend an awful lot of time looking back at my old Infirm posts.
Rather than staring at old, meaningless posts in your remaining spare time - might I suggest going to a greenhouse, beach or museum? Or watch the sunset?
I'd hate to think the last thing you see are the words "Ping Pow".
Regards,
Slave
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Deny as you might, it's pretty obvious that her obsession with you makes you tingly in all the special places.
Or is that the stubble?
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08-31-2005, 11:49 AM
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#3045
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PenskeWorld
Posts: 11,627
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str8- can you hook up tixs?
Quote:
Originally posted by nononono
That's fine. The more she shows how indiscriminate and unthoughtful she is about all of this, the less we'll have to hear about her.
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And more employment for the outsourced phottoshoppe dudes in India.
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