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[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
You're like a modern-day Martin Luther.

There were typos negating entire arguments in those dealy-boppers he nailed to the doors?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
There were typos negating entire arguments in those dealy-boppers he nailed to the doors?

Probably. Gutenberg hadn't invented white-out.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
2, though the insurance companies are also none too thrilled about it either. The hospitals desperately, desperately want it, because they're going broke having to cover so much uncompensated care.

Yes that is true about the insurance companies. If in my hand I am holding the Drug companies, insurance companies and the AMA, and in your hand you are holding every other large company in America, I have a pair of sevens and you are holding a royal flush.

Corporate America wants, the majority of people want it, the hospitals want it and the entire Democrat party wants it. Game over.

By the way, on the on going debate about medical care in the US a week ago I was hanging out with Less and got head butted by drunken Irishman who broke my nose. The ambulance picked me up and took me to the nastiest hospital in San Francisco (located in the Tenderloin) and I got amazing treatment. My private physician who took out my stitches four days later said the ER doctor did an excellent job. I was put in a private room that was clean and I got lots of attention.. The doctor told me that they mostly received homeless people and drug addicts in this hospital, but it still was incredibly clean. Better treatment than I ever received in England, France, Italy or Japan. The hospital I went to in England was in the burbs near Gatwick and it was dirty and the doctor was a moron. In the worst part of San Francisco I got A-1 service. Ask Less about it, he was with me.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
You're like a modern-day Martin Luther.

But unlike Martin Luther I reveled in the hypocrisy.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Probably. Gutenberg hadn't invented white-out.

...

2. The word can[not] be properly understood as referring to the sacrament of penance, i.e. confession and satisfaction, as administered by the clergy.

...

5. The pope has [neither the] will [nor the] power to remit any penalties beyond those imposed either at his own discretion or by canon law.

[Spanky]

Here they go again: These guys are just incredible.


Banned Books Week


Banned Books Week
By Raija Curchill

Banned Books Week promotes every person's freedom to express opinions, and to access all opinions, even when "unorthodox or unpopular." It is sponsored by the American Library Association (ALA) and begins on Saturday, September 29. Intellectual freedom is a wonderful part of the American way. This week dealing with censorship, however, is misleading. Not only is "censorship" a routine aspect of every librarian's work, but the titles on ALA's Most Frequently Challenged Books of 2006 list are shockingly inappropriate for their target audiences.

ALA defines censorship as changing an item's accessibility, based on its content, when the decision is made by a governing authority. Librarians routinely make such decisions on the front end: what materials they will, and will not, introduce into their libraries. Yet requiring minors to get parental permission before borrowing R rated movies is "censorship." Restricting children's access to pornography is "censorship." ALA encourages librarians to maintain the "confidentiality" of young adults, which in publishing terms, means 12 through 18 year olds. This makes parenting harder. It is censorship, though, that Banned Books Week calls "harmful."

There is a crucial difference between suppressing free speech and determining what is appropriate for schoolyard reading. Every title on ALA's Most Frequently Challenged Books list is used in schools and/or written for school aged students. They were challenged for content: sexual content, occult/Satanism, drug use, violence, and more. Consider three examples:

· And Tango Makes Three, written for children aged four to eight, is based on a true story about two male penguins and their baby Tango. It teaches that homosexual families are natural and good.

· The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big Round Things is written for 12-15 year olds. The ALA's Booklist describes its protagonist: "She wants a boyfriend, but she settles for Froggy Welsh, who comes over on Mondays to grope her." Around its sexual theme, this book discusses family dysfunction, self-mutilation, female masturbation, and date rape.

· The Perks of Being a Wallflower chronicles the maturation of Charlie, who was sexually abused as a child. He smokes pot to gain friends. He drops acid. According to Insight Magazine, the book includes boy-dog sex, man-boy sex, anal sex between boys, male masturbation, and female masturbation.

Challenging a book does not prevent adults from reading it. This is about who shapes the morals of American students. Parents deserve support in their efforts to protect children from unsuitable content. According to ALA, the "positive message" of Banned Books Week is that "most challenges are unsuccessful." These books are regularly "retained in the school curriculum or library collection." Yet when ALA frames Banned Books Week in terms of censoring ideas, it is not promoting the American way. It is undermining conscientious parents across the nation.

For Banned Books Week this year, consider asking your library about its policies on pornographic and R rated materials. If you enjoy a pro-family book that is not in your library, you can make a purchase request. Do your part to support families in your community.

American Library Association Banned Books Week

ALA's Most Frequently Challenged Books of 2006


Raija Churchill, a senior at Patrick Henry College, is an intern filling the position of Research Associate. Her work for CRI includes a booklet informing parents about what children encounter in public schools, from vaccinations to teaching on Islam. It will show parents their rights-and equip them to respond. Other research includes a comparison of the political parties' values on issues that impact California families.

Raija's prior research for the Congressional Pro-Life Caucus and national organizations detailed the illegal use of federal funds in abortion programs. Under former TIME senior correspondent Dr. David Aikman, she researched legal and human rights issues in intercountry adoption. Her volunteer work in disaster preparation has been recognized by the American Red Cross and others.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Spanky

By the way, on the on going debate about medical care in the US a week ago I was hanging out with Less and got head butted by drunken Irishman who broke my nose. The ambulance picked me up and took me to the nastiest hospital in San Francisco (located in the Tenderloin) and I got amazing treatment. My private physician who took out my stitches four days later said the ER doctor did an excellent job. I was put in a private room that was clean and I got lots of attention.. The doctor told me that they mostly received homeless people and drug addicts in this hospital, but it still was incredibly clean. Better treatment than I ever received in England, France, Italy or Japan. The hospital I went to in England was in the burbs near Gatwick and it was dirty and the doctor was a moron. In the worst part of San Francisco I got A-1 service. Ask Less about it, he was with me.

Goes to show, folks, if you're going to get head-butted by a drunken Irishman, much better for it to be in San Francisco than in the slums of Gatwick, Paris, Milan or Tokyo.

(No word on New York.)

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Of course it's improved. Columbia students get the chance to hear and see a foreign leader. The debate about this episode seems to assume that Columbia students are intellectual kindergarteners who are at risk of subscribing to these ideas if they're exposed to them. This is a university. Graduate students in foreign relations and Middle Eastern studies would surely want to see this guy speak, even if he is -- especially if he is -- a batshit crazy dictator.

I have to go with Ty on this one. Let the guy speak. Shows we are better thanthey are. I would love to attend that speach and be able to ask questions.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Goes to show, folks, if you're going to get head-butted by a drunken Irishman, much better for it to be in San Francisco than in the slums of Gatwick, Paris, Milan or Tokyo.

(No word on New York.)

No it is better to be in the slums of San Franciso than in the nice areas of Gatwick, Paris, Florence or Tokyo.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by taxwonk
That's not necessarily true. He may be a foreign leader, but he's one who holds ideas that are wildly out of touch with history and reality. Your argument suggests that an appearance by Gallagher would per se improve the quality of discourse on the arts.

All columbia has done is lend legitimacy to a batshit crazy dictator, legitimacy which is not befitting the quality of his speech or intellect.

Bullshit. I admire the guy, in a sense. He and Jong-Il are the only "third-world" leaders with the balls to say "If you can have nukes, I can too - my country is just as valid as yours."

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Spanky

Corporate America wants, the majority of people want it, the hospitals want it and the entire Democrat party wants it. Game over.

And we'd already have it if only people listened to Hilary!

Will you be leading Hil's efforts in yonder Valley?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Spanky
Here they go again: These guys are just incredible.


Banned Books Week


Banned Books Week
By Raija Curchill

Banned Books Week promotes every person's freedom to express opinions, and to access all opinions, even when "unorthodox or unpopular." It is sponsored by the American Library Association (ALA) and begins on Saturday, September 29. Intellectual freedom is a wonderful part of the American way. This week dealing with censorship, however, is misleading. Not only is "censorship" a routine aspect of every librarian's work, but the titles on ALA's Most Frequently Challenged Books of 2006 list are shockingly inappropriate for their target audiences.

ALA defines censorship as changing an item's accessibility, based on its content, when the decision is made by a governing authority. Librarians routinely make such decisions on the front end: what materials they will, and will not, introduce into their libraries. Yet requiring minors to get parental permission before borrowing R rated movies is "censorship." Restricting children's access to pornography is "censorship." ALA encourages librarians to maintain the "confidentiality" of young adults, which in publishing terms, means 12 through 18 year olds. This makes parenting harder. It is censorship, though, that Banned Books Week calls "harmful."

There is a crucial difference between suppressing free speech and determining what is appropriate for schoolyard reading. Every title on ALA's Most Frequently Challenged Books list is used in schools and/or written for school aged students. They were challenged for content: sexual content, occult/Satanism, drug use, violence, and more. Consider three examples:

· And Tango Makes Three, written for children aged four to eight, is based on a true story about two male penguins and their baby Tango. It teaches that homosexual families are natural and good.

· The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big Round Things is written for 12-15 year olds. The ALA's Booklist describes its protagonist: "She wants a boyfriend, but she settles for Froggy Welsh, who comes over on Mondays to grope her." Around its sexual theme, this book discusses family dysfunction, self-mutilation, female masturbation, and date rape.

· The Perks of Being a Wallflower chronicles the maturation of Charlie, who was sexually abused as a child. He smokes pot to gain friends. He drops acid. According to Insight Magazine, the book includes boy-dog sex, man-boy sex, anal sex between boys, male masturbation, and female masturbation.

Challenging a book does not prevent adults from reading it. This is about who shapes the morals of American students. Parents deserve support in their efforts to protect children from unsuitable content. According to ALA, the "positive message" of Banned Books Week is that "most challenges are unsuccessful." These books are regularly "retained in the school curriculum or library collection." Yet when ALA frames Banned Books Week in terms of censoring ideas, it is not promoting the American way. It is undermining conscientious parents across the nation.

For Banned Books Week this year, consider asking your library about its policies on pornographic and R rated materials. If you enjoy a pro-family book that is not in your library, you can make a purchase request. Do your part to support families in your community.

American Library Association Banned Books Week

ALA's Most Frequently Challenged Books of 2006


Raija Churchill, a senior at Patrick Henry College, is an intern filling the position of Research Associate. Her work for CRI includes a booklet informing parents about what children encounter in public schools, from vaccinations to teaching on Islam. It will show parents their rights-and equip them to respond. Other research includes a comparison of the political parties' values on issues that impact California families.

Raija's prior research for the Congressional Pro-Life Caucus and national organizations detailed the illegal use of federal funds in abortion programs. Under former TIME senior correspondent Dr. David Aikman, she researched legal and human rights issues in intercountry adoption. Her volunteer work in disaster preparation has been recognized by the American Red Cross and others.

I can always trust your buddies in the Republican party to keep that Radical Librarian Democrats in line!

[SlaveNoMore]

taxwonk
I think that Columbia's adminstration was thinking far more of the notoriety and the attention his appearance would bring to the school than it was thinking of the importance of free speech.

After the Minutemen incident. Columbia cannot be cheapened any more than it already has.

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
After the Minutemen incident. Columbia cannot be cheapened any more than it already has.

The allowed this Iranian asshole to speak, but wouldn't let D Boone play? Bastards.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Propaganda? What is the harm to him speaking at Columbia as opposed to the University of Tehran? Don't we show how strong we are in letting him speak here? The reaction to him makes it seem like we're worried people might hear him and be convinced. If we might go to war with him -- and what a stupid idea that would be -- all the more reason to let him speak.

2 We look like idiots. We let Krushchev speak. We let Castro speak. Why not this guy?

Last I heard you couldn't gain insight into your enemy ignoring him. What other than a learning experience could his speech be? Really? WTF is the matter with this country. We're so high on our fucking childish moral certainties in this country it's embarrassing. This guy's an awful guy, but ignoring him is possibly only sure fire unproductive and probably counterproductive reaction we could have to his appearance. He's the best add against his kind. I say let him put a mini-series on PBS and give him a talk show.