Waiting for Fitzgerald - Page 206

bilmore · 10-13-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
If the Dems actually nominate someone who has a reasonable plan and the credibility to convince me em'll actually try to implement it, I'd vote for the Dem.

For instance . . . . ?

notcasesensitive · 10-13-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But who cares? Pot is de facto legal everywhere. Law enforcement hasn't a prayer of even denting the pot trade. And no one even cares about it anymore. My relatives smoke it. Most docs I know smoke it. My folks' friends smoke it. My sister and I freely talk about it at home. I barely know a soul who hasn't tried it, and I don't know anyone who's against using it responsibly to have a good time. So who really cares what the Govt thinks?

Alan Ginsberg?

ETA - crap, wrong Ginsberg. who was the guy that was nixed for admitted pot use? ginsberg and supreme court and marijuana is of no help to me on google now that the Ruth Bader broad is on the court.

EFTA - probably repeated pot use has made me forget the guy's name.

Penske_Account · 10-13-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Um, to be fair, your guy, who was one of the most liberal members of the guv, campaigned as a centrist.

Now Hil's gonna try the same thing.

Is being a liberal that embarrassing even to liberals?

If it is not, it should be.

Penske_Account · 10-13-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
That may be your view but that is not what the focused groups are showing. Her support in the middle is pretty good. I agree with Dick Morris. She is going to be tough to beat.

Yes, but with Morris and boatloads of mudd on our side, we can make a damn good try. Full (cleveland) steam(er) ahead!

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 10-13-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Alan Ginsberg?

ETA - crap, wrong Ginsberg. who was the guy that was nixed for admitted pot use? ginsberg and supreme court and marijuana is of no help to me on google now that the Ruth Bader broad is on the court.

EFTA - probably repeated pot use has made me forget the guy's name.

Douglas Ginsburg.

And I disagree with sebby. Even the FBI is apparently relaxing its "no past drug use" policy with respect to pot. Eventually so many people will have smoked it in high school/college that it won't be socially or professionally unacceptable.

We probably won't be around to enjoy it, but I suspect it will be legal in some form by the end of the century.

As for liberal--yeah, the term has been coopted.

Penske_Account · 10-13-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
Might be dumb as a bag of hammers, but at least Smilin' Pat is always good for a quote. From his 700 Club show:

On today’s “700 Club” broadcast, the Rev. Pat Robertson responded to criticism from the Right regarding the Miers nomination and also offered a stern warning to those conservative senators who might be thinking of voting against her. Rev. Robertson suggested that people should look at who is supporting Miers before they doubt her conservative credentials. He named James Dobson, the Rev. Jerry Falwell, Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention, Jay Sekulow of the Robertson-founded American Center for Law and Justice, and himself as proof of support for Miers’ nomination from the Right. Robertson concluded by noting: “These so-called movement conservatives don’t have much of a following, the ones that I’m aware of. And you just marvel, these are the senators, some of them who voted to confirm the general counsel of the ACLU to the Supreme Court, and she was voted in almost unanimously. And you say, ‘now they’re going to turn against a Christian who is a conservative picked by a conservative President and they’re going to vote against her for confirmation?’ Not on your sweet life, if they want to stay in office.”

Penske, it's time to pray. Rub that babyjesus, and get the Religious Right off the backs of those brave GOP Senators!

PoPD, duly noted. In solidarity with my jewish friends, on their day of atonement, I won't soil the board by sinking to your despicable level of mockery of the lourd and religious faith.

Penske_Account · 10-13-2005, 03:50 PM

Penske_Account · 10-13-2005, 03:54 PM

The Hillary Clinton Accountability Project is a project of the United States Justice Foundation intended to educate the public about the largest federal election campaign fraud ever reported. Through its representation of whistleblower Peter Paul in his ongoing landmark court case, Paul vs. Hillary Rodham Clinton, William Jefferson Clinton, et al., the USJF will uncover in court and expose evidence linking Senator Hillary Clinton and then-President Bill Clinton with orchestrating a multi-million-dollar fraud against Paul, the Federal Election Commission and other Federal agencies, as well as the voters of New York, in connection with her 2000 election to the U.S. Senate.

Light at the end of the tunnel.

Not Bob · 10-13-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Alan Ginsberg?

ETA - crap, wrong Ginsberg. who was the guy that was nixed for admitted pot use? ginsberg and supreme court and marijuana is of no help to me on google now that the Ruth Bader broad is on the court.

EFTA - probably repeated pot use has made me forget the guy's name.

Douglas Ginsberg. Still on the DC Circuit, I think. Scalia got his seat. IIRC

Penske_Account · 10-13-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Douglas Ginsberg. Still on the DC Circuit, I think. Scalia got his seat. IIRC

I thought Kennedy got his seat, no?

taxwonk · 10-13-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
I stuck around at St. Petersburg . . .

(ETA - Oops.)

You can play that here. The Angels aren't crewing for this gig.

taxwonk · 10-13-2005, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
For instance . . . . ?

Barack Obama. Of course, he's got about as much chance of getting nominated by the Rs as he does by the Ds, at least for the next 8 years or so. I can't really think of anyone else off the top of my head, right now.

Diane_Keaton · 10-13-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) Even the FBI is apparently relaxing its "no past drug use" policy with respect to pot.

Yep. I almost went fed a few years ago and got the skinny on the drug stuff from a very high staffer. At that point, the FBI was okay with applicants who had gotten baked as long as: (1) it was a while back and not like a year or so before applying; (2) you had smoked a doob maybe 10-15 times but weren't like a Spicoli or nothing (NTTAWWT). You had to have escaped the 80's, though, without having driven down that White Line Highway (though I had some tell me 2 or 3 times wouldn't disqualify you). At about this time, they were also raising the max age for joining from 33 to 35. I'm still thinking about doing it; just waiting for the standards to change so that there is no discrimination among applicants just by reason of me being a 40 year old former 80's Crack Ho.

Penske_Account · 10-13-2005, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Yep. I almost went fed a few years ago and got the skinny on the drug stuff from a very high staffer. At that point, the FBI was okay with applicants who had gotten baked as long as: (1) it was a while back and not like a year or so before applying; (2) you had smoked a doob maybe 10-15 times but weren't like a Spicoli or nothing (NTTAWWT). You had to have escaped the 80's, though, without having driven down that White Line Highway (though I had some tell me 2 or 3 times wouldn't disqualify you). At about this time, they were also raising the max age for joining from 33 to 35. I'm still thinking about doing it; just waiting for the standards to change so that there is no discrimination among applicants just by reason of me being a 40 year old former 80's Crack Ho.

The CIA, ttbomkiab, traditionally has been even more stringent in their anti-drug criteria, although otoh, I know someone, whom I strongly suspect of being or having been in the CIA (I know as a fact that she/he went through the application process), who did a boatload of drugs in the 80s. Must have lied like Clinton.

I also know that one of that person's partners in crime got dinged by the FBI for prior drug use.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 10-13-2005, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Yep. I almost went fed a few years ago and got the skinny on the drug stuff from a very high staffer. At that point, the FBI was okay with applicants who had gotten baked as long as: (1) it was a while back and not like a year or so before applying; (2) you had smoked a doob maybe 10-15 times but weren't like a Spicoli or nothing (NTTAWWT). You had to have escaped the 80's, though, without having driven down that White Line Highway (though I had some tell me 2 or 3 times wouldn't disqualify you). At about this time, they were also raising the max age for joining from 33 to 35.

I think the NY Times had something on this recently, BTW. heres the CNN article i found on google. IIRC, someone in the article was quoted as saying that there's no difference between 15 and 50 because anyone who's smoked 15 times has smoked 50. I think that's Penske's friend.

I like McCaffrey's quote: "The 16th time smoking pot is the killer." Is that tongue in cheek?