Meet your new thread, same as the old thread.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Not Bob
As for the Germans, we've all read Vonnegut, so we know about Dresden.

I'm just now getting used to the idea that blogger's opinions can be cited as fact. You do realize a novel is set up as fiction on it's face, right?

BTW, if my novel does get published, the character that you wil all recognize as Shape shifter, the part about the sheep when he was growing up, i have no knowledge that it actually happened.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I'm just now getting used to the idea that blogger's opinions can be cited as fact. You do realize a novel is set up as fiction on it's face, right?

So, Napolean never invaded Russia? My bad.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I'm just now getting used to the idea that blogger's opinions can be cited as fact. You do realize a novel is set up as fiction on it's face, right?

BTW, if my novel does get published, the character that you wil all recognize as Shape shifter, the part about the sheep when he was growing up, i have no knowledge that it actually happened.

You do realize that Dresden is a real city and that it was actually firebombed in WWII, right? Thousands of innocent men, women, and children died there.

I'm not making any moral judgments here, other than to point out the silliness of your post, and I want to go on record as saying that silliness, or even stupidity, are not immoral in my eyes.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by taxwonk
You do realize that Dresden is a real city and that it was actually firebombed in WWII, right? Thousands of innocent men, women, and children died there.

I don't know how long a thought sticks in your brain, not long i fear, but go back and read my post that bob responded to.

my point was that we probably shouldn't take Vonnegut's word. do you believe Billy Pilgrim and Montana wildwhatever are still screwing in some extraterrestrial zoo somewhere?

Hint: there is probably pretty convincing evidence of a convincing quality for one of these and not for the other.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Not Bob
So, Napolean never invaded Russia? My bad.

you know what i meant. the problem with you making posts like this is that your side has some dull-normal people posting here and you owe them to not mislead them intellectually this way. they trust you to be intellectually honest.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
It has nothing to do with morals, and I understand the argument of letting him hang himself. But unfortunately the Arab world does not live by the same belief system that we do, and I fear that the appearance will be used to prop him up and legitimize him in the Arab world in the same way that allowing him to visit the towers would have.

He's not Arab. And it's odd to think that centuries of enmity between Arabs and Persian could be overcome by letting the guy speak at Columbia. It's a fine university, but it's not that good.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you know what i meant. the problem with you making posts like this is that your side has some dull-normal people posting here and you owe them to not mislead them intellectually this way. they trust you to be intellectually honest.

My side? Pony is the only other Mets fan I know around here, and I wouldn't call him dull. Or normal.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
my point was that we probably shouldn't take Vonnegut's word. do you believe Billy Pilgrim and Montana wildwhatever are still screwing in some extraterrestrial zoo somewhere?

Would it kill you to post a spoiler alert?

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Not Bob
So, Napolean never invaded Russia? My bad.

Would it kill you to post a spoiler alert?

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Spanky
I went to a Catholic Law School (although I am not Catholic myself). Before I attended a Catholic school, I did realize how devout one could be as a Catholic and completely ignore the rules. Didn't work that way in the Protestant church I grew up in.

Pssst! It doesn't work that way in the Catholic Church either, but many American Catholics just refuse to admit it.

I sometimes have interesting discussions with my boss where she insists she is still a Catholic even though . . . (etc.) As a Jesuit-trained former Catholic myself, I'm not buying it.

S_A_M

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man

I sometimes have interesting discussions with my boss where she insists she is still a Catholic even though . . . (etc.) As a Jesuit-trained former Catholic myself, I'm not buying it.

S_A_M

This is my problem with religion. Too many people half-ass it. What does it mean to be religious? Seems to me you should either be in or be out.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Pssst! It doesn't work that way in the Catholic Church either, but many American Catholics just refuse to admit it.

I sometimes have interesting discussions with my boss where she insists she is still a Catholic even though . . . (etc.) As a Jesuit-trained former Catholic myself, I'm not buying it.

S_A_M

Dissent. As long as we don't explicitedly renounce anything we still have confession inour backpocket to clean up all those lapsed years.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Dissent. As long as we don't explicitedly renounce anything we still have confession inour backpocket to clean up all those lapsed years.

Yes, but not if you don't believe in it, or if you believe in stuff the Church says is absolutely verboten.

But anyway, as I have explicitly renounced it and gone elsewhere, I have to hope the Roman Church is wrong about that one true path to God thing.

S_A_M

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Pssst! It doesn't work that way in the Catholic Church either, but many American Catholics just refuse to admit it.
S_A_M

Oh yeh - sez who?

[LessinSF]

Murder rates for states with the death penalty vs. states without the death penalty:

States with the Death Penalty
Nevada - 9.0
Alabama - 8.3
Arizona - 7.5
Arkansas - 7.3
California - 6.8
Colorado - 3.3
Connecticut - 3.1
Delaware - 4.9
Florida - 6.2
Georgia - 6.4
Idaho - 6.1
Indiana - 5.8
Illinois - 6.1
Kansas - 4.6
Kentucky - 4.0
Louisiana - 12.4
Maryland - 9.7
Mississippi - 7.7
Missouri - 6.3
Montana - 1.8
Nebraska - 2.8
New Hampshire - 1.0
New Jersey - 4.9
New Mexico - 6.8
North Carolina - 6.1
Ohio - 4.7
Oregon - 2.3
Oklahoma - 5.8
Pennsylvania - 5.9
South Carolina - 8.3
South Dakota - 1.2
Tennessee - 6.8
Texas - 5.9
Utah - 1.8
Virgina - 5.2
Washington - 3.0
Wyoming 1.7

States Without the Death Penalty:
Alaska - 5.4
Hawaii - 1.6
Iowa - 1.8
Maine - 1.7
Massachusetts - 2.9
Michigan - 7.1
Minnesota - 2.4
North Dakota - 1.3
Rhode Island - 2.6
Vermont - 1.9
West Virginia - 4.1
Wisconsin - 3.0

New York (law declared unconstitutional in 2004) - 4.8