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02-17-2005, 12:57 PM
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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Dean
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Originally posted by sgtclub
He reportedly spoke to a group of black leaders in a hotel ballroom and said something like the only way the GOP could get this many blacks to turn out is if they brought in the hotel staff. Can't remember where I saw it, but will look.
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I take it the whole group left in a huff as soon as he said it and ran to the warm embrace of the GOP?
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02-17-2005, 12:57 PM
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Brit Hume, deceptive hack
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Why is there this insane assumption that if people don't have a tax-deferred vehicle, they can't save?
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Well, if we're looking for ways to encourage people to save, don't we actually need something to encourage it beyond suggestions that people save?
Besides, if you want people to save for retirement by putting funds away that they can't (easily) withdraw before retirement, there kind of needs to be a reason for people to opt for that kind of account rather than regular savings accounts.
Maybe we can solve the problem of the poor not saving enough by banning them from getting cable TV, big-screen TVs, season tickets to the NBA, and any other number of luxury items they should not indulge in. |
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02-17-2005, 12:58 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Dean
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Anybody see his racist comments the other day?
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I think that's reaching. If you do go to a R rally/meeting/whatever, you WILL mostly only see blacks in the waitstaff. We can call him racist about this when our tent gets bigger. Not now, though. |
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02-17-2005, 12:58 PM
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World Ruler
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Dean
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
He reportedly spoke to a group of black leaders in a hotel ballroom and said something like the only way the GOP could get this many blacks to turn out is if they brought in the hotel staff. Can't remember where I saw it, but will look.
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What is the racist part? Did he make some Holocaust jokes afterward, or what?
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02-17-2005, 12:59 PM
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Serenity Now
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Dean
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I take it the whole group left in a huff as soon as he said it and ran to the warm embrace of the GOP?
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Judge for yourself:
- "You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room?," Dean asked to laughter. "Only if they had the hotel staff in here."
His style ever will be blunt: "We have to never be afraid to say what we believe," he insists
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/122832.php |
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02-17-2005, 12:59 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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presidential fetish
This reminds me of the old story about George S. Kauffman, who was a screenwriter and playwright who worked with, inter alia, the Marx Brothers. Kaffman was eating in the NBC Commissary one day when a studio exec walked past him. The exec ran his head over Kauffman's bald head and remarked, "That's as soft as my wife's bottom."
"Yes. Yes it is," Kauffman replied.
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02-17-2005, 01:00 PM
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Southern charmer
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Brit Hume, deceptive hack
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Maybe we can solve the problem of the poor not saving enough by banning them from getting cable TV, big-screen TVs, season tickets to the NBA, and any other number of luxury items they should not indulge in.
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Well, they can't buy NHL tix. Not sure if the effect will be an appreciable one.
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02-17-2005, 01:00 PM
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Serenity Now
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Dean
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
What is the racist part? Did he make some Holocaust jokes afterward, or what?
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You can't be serious |
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02-17-2005, 01:04 PM
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#3129
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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Dean
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Originally posted by sgtclub
You can't be serious
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What was racist about it? The restaurant industry in this part of the country is entirely dependent on people of color (specifically Hispanics). I don't think it's much different in any other part of the country.
Go rent A Day Without a Mexican. Or better yet, go out to lunch and take a look at the people who are working in the restaurant.
ETA link to movie and statement that same applies for hotel industry.
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Last edited by Replaced_Texan; 02-17-2005 at 01:08 PM..
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02-17-2005, 01:04 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Brit Hume, deceptive hack
Quote:
Originally posted by ltl/fb
Why is there this insane assumption that if people don't have a tax-deferred vehicle, they can't save?
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Our entire governmental philosophy is based on the idea that we gently suade people to engage in "correct" behavior. Are you dissenting? |
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02-17-2005, 01:05 PM
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Moderator
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Dean
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
You can't be serious
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You are an incompetent fool, an offense
against the world. |
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02-17-2005, 01:05 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Dean
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
Judge for yourself:
- "You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room?," Dean asked to laughter. "Only if they had the hotel staff in here."
His style ever will be blunt: "We have to never be afraid to say what we believe," he insists
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/122832.php
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Again, although Bilmore said it better. The comment wasn't racist; it was a slam on Republicans.
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02-17-2005, 01:06 PM
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Classified
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Dean
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
You can't be serious
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Not all mentions of race equate to racism.
Truth is a defense as to each side of that statement you might dislike. (Holy Crud -- Dean suggested that the wait staff at a convention hotel is likely to be largely people of color! The horror!)
What Bilmore said.
S_A_M
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02-17-2005, 01:08 PM
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World Ruler
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Dean
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
Judge for yourself:
- "You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room?," Dean asked to laughter. "Only if they had the hotel staff in here."
His style ever will be blunt: "We have to never be afraid to say what we believe," he insists
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/122832.php
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Club, I don't really like web lingo, but I am rolling on the floor laughing my ass off. Check out this righteous indignation:
"So, does Howard Dean believe that members of the Black Community are disproportionately represented as hotel staff in this country?
It's demeaning, it's belittling, and I'm completely floored that he would level such an insulting remark upon this community. "
Courtesy of: David Flanagan
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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02-17-2005, 01:09 PM
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#3135
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Brit Hume, deceptive hack
Quote:
Originally posted by Gattigap
Well, they can't buy NHL tix. Not sure if the effect will be an appreciable one.
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People on hotel staffs do not watch hockey.
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