Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Not Me
Do you really trust some card-carrying public school teacher's union member to teach religion to kids?

I don't want religion taught. But to definitively say that our universe was created by the big-bank/evolution is not beyond debate. Does anybody really have a problem with a discussion where both views are laid out, assuming we could trust the teachers?

This answers the "how we are hear question." I think I agree with most of you that the "why" question should be reserved to the home/church/temple/mosk.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Not Me
Do you really trust some card-carrying public school teacher's union member to teach religion to kids?

No. that's what vouchers are for!

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
No. that's what vouchers are for!

Burger, all that's left to do is figure out which one of us is going to be President and Vice President. Actually, I need a couple of years to reach the 35 year old requirement, so I'll have to take on a different position, but our platform is beautiful!

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Burger, all that's left to do is figure out which one of us is going to be President and Vice President. Actually, I need a couple of years to reach the 35 year old requirement, so I'll have to take on a different position, but our platform is beautiful!

Get OFF me.

[andViolins]

Drudge is linking to an AP story about this ticket idea.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...in_1&printer=1

aV

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I am not quibbling over the amount of coverage, just the way it has been positioned. Although a lot of work remains and things still very easily could go sideways, this is a truly historical event of momentous proportions, and the significance of this has, in my mind, been downplayed or at least not realized to date.

It appears that, to get this done on the proper timetable, many of the tough questions were postponed to the "real" constitution process next year. I think that undermines a lot of the momentousness in the eyes of those who are anxiously awaiting a democracy to rise from the ashes in that country.

Also I think many Iraqi observers will not see their country as free until the US troops leave. The interim charter actually calls for the US forces to be the ultimate authority in Iraq for a longer period than had been expected before the charter was drafted.

And no this is not an argument that we should get out of there before the proper time. If anything, I think we're rushing this interim charter process.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
No. that's what vouchers are for!

Vochers are for allowing inner city children to learn how to read, write, and do arithemtic, which they by and large aren't able to learn in inner city public schools. Getting taught religion is the price that they have pay for to get a decent education in a safe environment.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
If anything, I think we're rushing this interim charter process.

I was thinking that, if the next phase isn't rushed, this was well-timed, as it starts the perception of local rule sooner rather than later, even though very little is actually decided at this point. It takes it more out of the "occupation" stage when they start doing things like establishing constitutions, even temporary ones.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

I am sure there is a perfectly sound distinction to be drawn between this and the Clinton administration's heinous, shameful abuse of access to the White House.

Bush White House Lincoln bedroom sleepovers

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Not Me
Getting taught religion is the price that they have pay for to get a decent education in a safe environment.

Most of the non-public schools around here (those which would be made available through vouchers) have no religious affiliation or content. The perception that this is religion-driven is, at least in part, incorrect.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
I am sure there is a perfectly sound distinction to be drawn between this and the Clinton administration's heinous, shameful abuse of access to the White House.

Bush White House Lincoln bedroom sleepovers

Clinton actually charged people to sleep there. Bush is just inviting his fund raisers and friends to sleep there. Get it?

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Not Me
Clinton actually charged people to sleep there. Bush is just inviting his fund raisers and friends to sleep there. Get it?

Clinton was a better capitalist than Bush?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by bilmore
Most of the non-public schools around here (those which would be made available through vouchers) have no religious affiliation or content. The perception that this is religion-driven is, at least in part, incorrect.

I think that is unusual. In Ohio and most of the other places that have tried vouchers, the voucher schools are primarily religious. The reason is that the vouchers are not for large amounts of money and the kids only get access to schools that are partially subsidized by a religious organization.

The vouchers are usually for about how much? Isn't it only about $2-3k? That will generally only cover the cost of a church-subsidized school.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by bilmore
Clinton was a better capitalist than Bush?

If by capitalist you mean he saw an opportunity to make money by renting out the Lincoln bedroom, then yes.

I see a distinction between inviting your friends and campaign fund raisers to sleep over at the white house and raising campaign funds by charging someone to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Not Me
Clinton actually charged people to sleep there. Bush is just inviting his fund raisers and friends to sleep there. Get it?

So Clinton was a whore, but Bush is just a slut?